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Is China Planning to Take Over The Moon?

Is China Planning to Take Over The Moon?

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@sonhouse said
@mchill
But they can launch missiles SO much easier on the moon with its 1/6 gravity....Of course there is the part where we would have several DAYS notice but who cares about pesky details🙂
If they wanted to weaponize Space they would just put uranium rods in orbit AKA Thor Shots (but with a Chinese style name) but China is extremely unlikely to want to do so.

They are after bragging rights and technological advance mostly.


@wildgrass said
China is building a floating research lab free from international law for next generation gain of function production of COVID for warfare and population control. The only people allowed in are bill gates, tony fauci, Greta thunberg, hulk Hogan and the my pillow guy.
Save us Elon Musk!

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@AThousandYoung
Putting uranium rods in orbit as a weapon wouldn't mean much unless that could trigger a nuclear explosion, otherwise the stuff would just burn up in the atmosphere or getting to Earth it would contaminate some area but that would allow people to get out of the way, not a good concept for a weapon.
A better weapon would be a mile wide mirror aimed at Earth directing solar energy to some target, that would put some 3 GIGAwatts of solar on some small target, way more than enough to light a bonfire🙂


Wasn't Stalin's Fist a weapon that just sent a large blunt object towards earth and the speed alone would destroy whole cities?

I remember some old guy explaining it to me once.

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@Ron-DeSantis
Since we already know how to make fusion bombs it would be a lot cheaper.

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@sonhouse said
@Ron-DeSantis
Since we already know how to make fusion bombs it would be a lot cheaper.
Agreed but the idea was to blame it on a "meteor" or asteroid whatever.


@Ron-DeSantis
Not many meteors are loaded with uranium, it would take maybe an HOUR for folks to figure out what happened. Stupid idea.


@sonhouse said
@Ron-DeSantis
Not many meteors are loaded with uranium, it would take maybe an HOUR for folks to figure out what happened. Stupid idea.
I was referring to an object of enough size to be regular materials but big enough to make it and hit without breaking up in the atmosphere.

Very stupid idea and the logistics of getting something that big into space is probably impossible.

The theory is sound though.

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A 200 foot meteor. Leveling the Siberian forest.
How hard would it be to get a 200 foot object into space made up of metals that can withstand the atmosphere on impact?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tunguska_event

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@Ron-DeSantis
That thing mostly was destroyed in the atmosphere even though it made like a megaton bomb.

BTW there was already a nuke level event in Russia, a meteor slammed through the atmosphere low enough to cause broken windows and deaths on its way to hitting the ground.

https://www.space.com/33623-chelyabinsk-meteor-wake-up-call-for-earth.html

Equal to a half MEGATON bomb with a thousand injuries. If it had gone straight down it would have destroyed an entire city but the damage was spread out over hundreds of miles of its path.

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@sonhouse

How hard would it be to get an object that big up into space and turn it around and send it at a city?

Tungsten would work.


@ron-desantis said
Wasn't Stalin's Fist a weapon that just sent a large blunt object towards earth and the speed alone would destroy whole cities?

I remember some old guy explaining it to me once.
Never heard it called that, but the concept of a metal rod at ultra-super-sonic speed hitting the ground and having the power of a hundred nukes has been around for a long time.
Higher the velocity, the more explosive force, a grain of sand at near light speed would blow up a (insert ridiculous example here).

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@Ron-DeSantis
We don't have rockets strong enough to launch that much weight into orbit.
Anyway, it would stick out like a sore thumb on space debris tracking radar and it would take some fierce rocket burn to get it to a city from space when it starts out at 15,000 miles an hour, you have to slow it down to half that speed to get it to crash. A LOT of energy just for that BESIDES the energy expended getting that much weight into orbit in the first place.

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@sonhouse said
@AThousandYoung
Putting uranium rods in orbit as a weapon wouldn't mean much unless that could trigger a nuclear explosion, otherwise the stuff would just burn up in the atmosphere or getting to Earth it would contaminate some area but that would allow people to get out of the way, not a good concept for a weapon.
A better weapon would be a mile wide mirror aimed at Earth ...[text shortened]... would put some 3 GIGAwatts of solar on some small target, way more than enough to light a bonfire🙂
It is a totally legit technology which does as much damage as a nuke from simple kinetic impact but nobody does it because weaponizing space is illegal by international treaty.

https://www.wearethemighty.com/articles/these-air-force-rods-from-god-could-hit-with-the-force-of-a-nuclear-weapon/

Thor used a large projectile from a few thousand miles above the Earth. The “rods from God” idea was a bundle of telephone-pole sized (20 feet long, one foot in diameter) tungsten rods, dropped from orbit, reaching a speed of up to ten times the speed of sound.


EDIT I meant depleted uranium like the tank ammo but apparently this tech uses tungsten like older tank ammo


@athousandyoung said
Save us Elon Musk!
Oh you haven't heard. There are dozens of internet reports. Basically elon will save us and force us all to live on Mars while he stays here with a gaggle of his own kids and starts fresh.

We will be given telescopes so we can watch from afar as he rebuilds the world in his image.

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