@Sleepyguy saidDoesn't that go for any romantic relationship, married or not?
Marriage is awesome if you do it right. Choose wisely, make a vow and make it work. Abuse or infidelity break the deal obviously, but otherwise divorce is for wimps and losers. How many of the people in this thread are married? You all sound like you don't even understand it.
I'm married, since 2009.
@Sleepyguy saidI guess it's OK ............................. if you're gay.
Marriage is awesome if you do it right. Choose wisely, make a vow and make it work. Abuse or infidelity break the deal obviously, but otherwise divorce is for wimps and losers. How many of the people in this thread are married? You all sound like you don't even understand it.
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@Rajk999 saidResearch has shown that divorce among church-going [aka active, believing] Christians, in the US and other western nations, is almost zero.
Research has shown that divorce among church-going [aka active, believing] Christians, in the US and other western nations, is almost zero, and in some cases and between 5 and 10%. In other cultures it is almost the smae among religious people. In India, Hindus - 2%, and Muslims about 20%. This one is only higher because of the ease of divorce in Islam, and the fact that th ...[text shortened]... which western society has condoned, fatherless children, the fall of religion. But it can be fixed.
The divorce rate among church-going [aka active, believing] Christians, in the US and other western nations is 38%. Little different than the general population.
Are you sure you didn't get your "research" from the inside of a Fritos bag? 😆
https://worldmetrics.org/christian-divorce-rate-statistics/
https://sacksandsackslaw.com/religious-demographics-divorce-united-states/
@no1marauder saidIs that supposed to be some kind of gotcha? I don't disagree.
I guess it's OK ............................. if you're gay.
@AThousandYoung saidSounds like you are doing it wrong and/or following the crowd. Smart people invite 10 people to the ceremony, save their money, have a family, be faithful and build a life together. If you make it about the likes and the ego and the shallow nonsense then thats your fault.
Marriage seems to be primarily for the purpose of spending a lot of money making the bride the center of attention. It's no longer a symbol of permanence - now it's an exercise in conspicuous consumption and ego gratification.
One of many reasons I am single. Marriage is financially destructive when it used to be financially strengthening.
Smart people do marriage the biblical way, and it works. Do it the way of men and you are screwed.
@vivify saidMarriage in many modern Western societies has ceased to be a covenant btw mankind and God and become, effectively (if not in name) something for which German has the perfect description: Zweckgemeinschaft, an incorporation for a specific purpose, dissolve-able at will if either party should feel his or her purposes are no longer served by it.
Marriage had use as a way of uniting tribes, sometimes kingdoms, where for most of history daughters (and sometimes sons) had no choice in the matter. Modern-day marriage involving courtship and proposal is relatively recent in human history.
But is it still something people should engage in? Given the high rate of divorce some sources siting 50% of couples get divorced ...[text shortened]... attles in divorce are messy, complicated and expensive. Jeff Bezos lost $60 billion to his ex-wife.
Marriage for the purpose of getting of children is hardly relevant any more. Illegitimate births are no longer stigmatized, and many couples stay together to raise children without getting married.
Moreover, adults have good reasons to bond, including in marriage, even if they do not wish to have children; this was always so, this is not peculiar to modernity.
What IS relevant is recognizing modern alternatives and enhancements to the traditional (hoary) one-man-one-woman-for-life model of marriage for the purpose of getting children. For example, there is no good reason why polyamorous relationships could not be given legal sanction, so long as all parties agree to it and no one is engaging in deception--this would make a good deal of sense, whereas, the current mode of serial monogamy often leads to patchwork families where legal and financial responsibilities for raising children from multiple failed marriages are messy and confusing for young children.
@AThousandYoung saidRaising kids can be financially ruinous, especially for a single-working parent even if married.
Marriage seems to be primarily for the purpose of spending a lot of money making the bride the center of attention. It's no longer a symbol of permanence - now it's an exercise in conspicuous consumption and ego gratification.
One of many reasons I am single. Marriage is financially destructive when it used to be financially strengthening.
I believe marriage is a matter of tradition and culture. In some families, divorce is inconceivable, it simply isn't done. In other families with other traditions, divorce is a way of solving a hopeless family situation and both ways can be right if handled properly. Focus should be on the children and their security. That's is where it very often goes wrong.
@Torunn saidSometimes people see things differently after 20 years. They may still feel passion for each other but the reasons that brought them together may be long gone and when people no longer "need" each other the relationship can dissolve. Should couples stay together for the kids? Not when there is constant bickering. But if both partners are adult and choose to be good supportive parents and not undermine the authority or respect due the other partner, then divorce can be a positive step.
I believe marriage is a matter of tradition and culture. In some families, divorce is inconceivable, it simply isn't done. In other families with other traditions, divorce is a way of solving a hopeless family situation and both ways can be right if handled properly. Focus should be on the children and their security. That's is where it very often goes wrong.
@Sleepyguy said“Marriage is awesome if you do it right”
Marriage is awesome if you do it right. Choose wisely, make a vow and make it work. Abuse or infidelity break the deal obviously, but otherwise divorce is for wimps and losers. How many of the people in this thread are married? You all sound like you don't even understand it.
Exactly. Been married 51 years. Today while many here were posting
because of absolutely nothing else to do, worrying about what color panties your man is wearing, I was watching my grandson play baseball in the high school playoffs.
A successful marriage require honest people. Many here lack that quality.
Marriage is a haven for all members if it is built on mutual trust, responsibility and love for the children. It's hell if it's a prison and all the parents want is to be separated. There must be some way we can have laws that will guarantee that in case of a divorce, both parents must continue to take their part of financial and practical responsibility for their children. It is not that way today.
@Sleepyguy saidCall it nostalgia for all the threads in the 2000s where right wingers said things like "next the libs will say it's legal to marry a tree!"
Is that supposed to be some kind of gotcha? I don't disagree.
Or a little joke.
@vivify saidWell yes, but the vow, in front of family and loved ones, underscores the commitment, and does more than join two people together. It joins families. Families make up community. A community where people keep their word builds a strong society to raise kids in. Marriage is about more than just two people hooking up.
Doesn't that go for any romantic relationship, married or not?
I'm married, since 2009.
@Mott-The-Hoople saidGood for you. I'm only on year 37 myself. But we've known each other much longer, since high school.
“Marriage is awesome if you do it right”
Exactly. Been married 51 years. Today while many here were posting
because of absolutely nothing else to do, worrying about what color panties your man is wearing, I was watching my grandson play baseball in the high school playoffs.
A successful marriage require honest people. Many here lack that quality.