Originally posted by Metal Brain I am sure they did get weapons from the US indirectly and Saudi Arabia too. Somebody with deep pockets had to have armed them for them to take as much territory as they did. I am willing to consider the possibility that the USA is fine with what IS is doing and helping certain factions of IS more than others.
The Obama plan might be to let IS advance ...[text shortened]... is obvious to me that US ground troops are part of the plan no matter how much Obama denies it.
I would bet that you have never been in the military.
Originally posted by Metal Brain The Kurds are claiming that the USA is essentially letting Kobani fall to the Islamic State by only doing symbolic bombing and nothing more.
http://www.telesurtv.net/english/opinion/If-Kobani-falls-Turkey-and-the-US-Will-Have-Blood-on-Their-Hands-20141003-0056.html
Turkey (an ally of the USA) has always seen the Kurds as a threat. Is Obama allowing that threat to be eliminated?
He is clearly abandoning the Kurds. The area in Turkey where the Kurds predominantly reside is largely a mountainous region where very few Turks live. Hence the Turkish saying about this area, "Kurds and goats".
Originally posted by Metal Brain The Kurds are claiming that the USA is essentially letting Kobani fall to the Islamic State by only doing symbolic bombing and nothing more.
Originally posted by AThousandYoung I don't think they do have American made tanks. I think journalists are manipulating headlines to make us think so. When I investigate the only tanks ISIS appear to have are Russian T55s.
The regular Iraq Army ran away and deserted the US tanks. ISIS definitely have them under their control. The problem ISIS has is: They simply can't deduce how to use them! 😀
Originally posted by whodey The Kurds are the only real ally the US has in that Islamic mess.
Obama is seeing to it that they disappear.
During Desert Storm the US air force flew more than 1,000 sorties per day.
In prosecuting ISIS over the past seven weeks, US has flown a total of 200 sorties. Yes, you read that correctly, that is an average of only 4 flights per day.
This fact answers the thread question: "Is Obama betraying the Kurds?" YES Also answered is another question: "Is Obama serious about fighting Jihadist Muslims?" NO
Originally posted by Quarl The regular Iraq Army ran away and deserted the US tanks. ISIS definitely have them under their control. The problem ISIS has is: They simply can't deduce how to use them! 😀
What evidence do you have that suggests ISIS have M1 Abrams tanks? Or M60 Pattons, or any American tank?
Originally posted by Metal Brain I guess Obama doesn't need the Kurds for an ally. The more peoples he betrays the more I think American troops on the ground was the plan all along.
There is no "betrayal" because the USA has no obligations towards the Kurds.
Originally posted by Quarl During Desert Storm the US air force flew more than 1,000 sorties per day.
In prosecuting ISIS over the past seven weeks, US has flown a total of 200 sorties. Yes, you read that correctly, that is an average of only 4 flights per day.
This fact answers the thread question: "Is Obama betraying the Kurds?" [b]YES Also answered is another question: "Is Obama serious about fighting Jihadist Muslims?" NO[/b]
Is it possible that he is doing something (as little as possible) due to the proximity of a midterm election?
Originally posted by normbenign Is it possible that he is doing something (as little as possible) due to the proximity of a midterm election?
That would a logical conclusion. Who knows? There have been times I have wished I knew what was in his mind and other times when I'm happy I have no idea what's in there!
Originally posted by Metal Brain Don't they teach you to slit people's throats in the military? Guns do run out of ammo at times.
Beheading is overkill. Simply severing the carotid artery does the trick. The Kabar knife is long and designed also to penetrate the heart and lungs making for a silent kill.
Is Obama betraying the Kurds?
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