19 Aug 23
This is a 10 minute video of Neil deGrasse Tyson explaining why Islam has won so few Nobel prizes, but at one point (1000 years ago) they were the kings of maths, astronomy and innovation.
And then he brings up the current situation in the US.
So, what do you think? Is religious fundamentalism (whether Islamic or Christian or whatever) dumbing nations down and destroying innovation?
My two cents is: yes.
Fundamentalism in all its forms stagnates innovation (this includes capitalist and communist fundamentalism).
But especially religious fundamentalism, as it claims that the basic concept can never be changes… or ya go to hell.
Wonder if you agree.
20 Aug 23
@earl-of-trumps saidDidn’t the church prosecute people who defied their teachings (like the Earth is the centre of the universe) and such like?
Actually, the reverse, if anything.
In Europe, the Catholic church was instrumental in leading scientific investigation, and the vatican is still active today.
The church was needed until wealthy individuals came along that were willing to explore and research.
That's my shot at it.
20 Aug 23
@shavixmir saidYeah Galileo would give earl a thumbs down but in Europe they were almost the sole providers of early seats of learning in the monasteries and later by establishing universities.
Didn’t the church prosecute people who defied their teachings (like the Earth is the centre of the universe) and such like?
The modern evangelical fundamental Christian’s in the US certainly share a lot of similarities to the Taliban, it’s always bad when the god botherer’s ride the many headed beast of politics and impose their delusions on the undeluded.
20 Aug 23
@shavixmir saidNdG Tyson is very respectful of religion. He credits Catholicism for creating the modern calendar and Islam for naming the stars. Let’s see what this clip is about.
This is a 10 minute video of Neil deGrasse Tyson explaining why Islam has won so few Nobel prizes, but at one point (1000 years ago) they were the kings of maths, astronomy and innovation.
And then he brings up the current situation in the US.
https://youtu.be/7Mm2Uryyb0I
So, what do you think? Is religious fundamentalism (whether Islamic or Christian or whatever) ...[text shortened]... as it claims that the basic concept can never be changes… or ya go to hell.
Wonder if you agree.
20 Aug 23
@shavixmir saidAuthoritarian, for sure, but that highlights my point that the church ruled the science roost. Don't defy them 🙂
Didn’t the church prosecute people who defied their teachings (like the Earth is the centre of the universe) and such like?
21 Aug 23
@earl-of-trumps saidBack in the day, the church were the only people who could read and write.
Authoritarian, for sure, but that highlights my point that the church ruled the science roost. Don't defy them 🙂
That could explain the early church being a force for innovation, then. Basically there were no scientists.
But since the enlightenment (one can only ponder why that phrase is coined… ) the church had not been on the forefront of anything.
21 Aug 23
@metal-brain saidClearly there are positives to Islam and NATO, I wonder what would happen if you started picking off members of the Russian federation one at a time.
@shavixmir
NATO is like Islam. An attack on one is an attack on all.