Israel Bans Brazil's President

@rajk999 said

Jewish Land Purchases

It is important to note that the first enduring Jewish agricultural settlement in modern Palestine was founded not by European refugees, but by a group of old-time families, leaving the overcrowded Jewish Quarter of the Old City of Jerusalem. (According to the Turkish census of 1875, by that time Jews already constituted a majority of the population of Jerusalem and by 1905 comprised two-thirds of its citizens. The Encyclopaedia Britannica of 1910 gives the population figure as 60,000, of whom 40,000 were Jews.)

In 1878 they founded the village of Petah Tikva in the Sharon Plain—a village that was to become known as the “Mother of Jewish Settlements” in Palestine. Four years later a group of pioneering immigrants from Russia settled in Rishon le-Zion. Other farming villages followed in rapid succession.

When considering Jewish land purchases and settlements, four factors should be borne in mind:

Most of the land purchases involved large tracts belonging to absentee owners. (Virtually all of the Jezreel Valley, for example, belonged in 1897 to only two persons: the eastern portion to the Turkish Sultan, and the western part to the richest banker in Syria, Sursuk “the Greek.&rdquo😉
Most of the land purchased had not been cultivated previously because it was swampy, rocky, sandy or, for some other reason, regarded as uncultivable. This is supported by the findings of the Peel Commission Report (p. 242): “The Arab charge that the Jews have obtained too large a proportion of good land cannot be maintained. Much of the land now carrying orange groves was sand dunes or swamp and uncultivated when it was purchased . . . there was at the time at least of the earlier sales little evidence that the owners possessed either the resources or training needed to develop the land.” (1937)
While, for this reason, the early transactions did not involve unduly large sums of money, the price of land began to rise as Arab landowners took advantage of the growing demand for rural tracts. The resulting infusion of capital into the Palestinian economy had noticeable beneficial effects on the standard of living of all the inhabitants.
The Jewish pioneers introduced new farming methods which improved the soil and crop cultivation and were soon emulated by Arab farmers.
The following figures show land purchases by the three leading Jewish land-buying organizations and by individual Jews between 1880 and 1935.

Jewish Land Purchases, 1880–1935 (in Dunams1)

OrganizationTotal Land AcquiredGovernment ConcessionsFrom Private OwnersLarge Tracts2 DunamsLarge Tract Percent (approx.)
PICA (Palestine Jewish Colonization Association)469,40739,520429,887293,54570
Palestine Land Development Co.579,49266,5133512,979455,16990
Jewish National Fund4836,396
Until 1930270,084239,17090
1931–1947566,31250
Individual Jews432,100432,10050

https://lessons.myjli.com/survival/index.php/2017/03/26/land-ownership-in-palestine-1880-1948/

@vivify said
The article also makes the point that the figures for fatalities in Gaza do not distinguish between civilians and Hamas fighters. This is in addition to the fact that Hamas hides behind civilians.

I keep hearing this argument.

1. Not all civilians killed had Hamas members “hiding” behind them.

2. If some religious nutjob is hiding behind your kid, are you going to scream: “Shoot them both!” ?
Are you going to kill your kid just to get at the religious extremist?

I didn’t think so. Because it is not a thing.
You pull the trigger, you are the one doing the killing. End of.

It’s why there are hostage negotiators, it’s why urban warfare is a dilemma, it’s why a multitude of other solutions are way better.

More civilians have been murdered by Israeli forces in 2 months, than in Ukraine by Russia in 2 years. That says something.

@rajk999 said
Yes .. its called sweet revenge. Peace?? Who says Israel wants peace?

Israel wants security. They have that and they have had that for decades.

Israel doesn't want security, Israel wants every non-Jew residing in Palestine to be murdered. And to call that "security".

@shallow-blue said
Israel doesn't want security, Israel wants every non-Jew residing in Palestine to be murdered. And to call that "security".

If that is what they want then they are failures, and the Jews cannot be described as failures. However killing every Jew is what Hamas wants to do. They are failures. Not only that, they are stupid people, dumb as a rock.

@shavixmir said
I keep hearing this argument.

Not all civilians killed had Hamas members “hiding” behind them.

That's not the point being made.

The issue is that there is no real way to tell if the person being killed is a member if Hamas or not.

The reported body count makes no distinction between whether civilians or terrorists were killed. If 30,000 people were killed, how many of them were the enemy? 5,000? 10,000?

And there is no real way to tell which people should be targeted. This puts Israel in an impossible situation.

That said, children are being killed and there's no justification for that.

@vivify said
The issue is that there is no real way to tell if the person being killed is a member if Hamas or not.

That said, children are being killed and there's no justification for that.

How can you be so blinded by your genocidal Zionist rage that you do not see the contradiction between those two sentences!?

@vivify said
That's not the point being made.

The issue is that there is no real way to tell if the person being killed is a member if Hamas or not.

The reported body count makes no distinction between whether civilians or terrorists were killed. If 30,000 people were killed, how many of them were the enemy? 5,000? 10,000?

And there is no real way to tell which people should be ...[text shortened]... mpossible situation.

That said, children are being killed and there's no justification for that.

They are all enemy. They are all religious fanatics who will kill Jews if they have the chance to do so. Gaza is a terrorist training camp and 90% of them support Hamas. The entire place is designed to train terrorists as soon as they can walk. Their lifestyle, their prayers, their schools, in the home. ... its all about killing Jews and repossessing the land of Palestine from the river to the sea. Thankfully they are far too stupid as a people to prosper and develop their capabilities to kill Jews in any significant number. They have taken their resources and used it foolishly...
- built useless tunnels costing billions
- built dozens of schools with a curriculum designed to teach killing of Jews
- built hospitals which have no use except as a military installation
- built mosques which are military biuldings

Just one example, Gaza as 36 hospitals. The avg number of hospitals for a population that size is around 3 or 4. What they have done is to take the generous donations from organisations and countries and used it to build fake hospitals. These have real doctors and real staff but it is a military installation which is supposedely proctected by the Geneva Convention. This is why the Jews are bombing hospitals... Hamas is hiding there and these war crimes and not pointed out.

@shallow-blue said
How can you be so blinded by your genocidal Zionist rage that you do not see the contradiction between those two sentences!?

Children are people. People die in a war. The war was brought to Gaza by Hamas. The arial bombing kill all people. Bombs do not kill selectively. The IDF ground forces are not shooting kids. If you are in a war and you come into the open you will be shot.

Next time, dont start a war if you dont want to die.

@shallow-blue said
How can you be so blinded by your genocidal Zionist rage that you do not see the contradiction between those two sentences!?

The fact that Hamas hides among civilians doesn't justify civilians being slaughtered.

@vivify said
The fact that Hamas hides among civilians doesn't justify civilians being slaughtered.

If you had your say, Israel would lose the war then. Hamas wins.

Hamas raped and massacred, roasted babies in ovens, killed thousands, sent rockets into civilian areas in Israel, kidnaped people. But Israel is helpless because they are -
- hiding among civilians
- their military hardware is in schools and hospitals
- they are hiding in tunnels under mosques
You cannot touch Hamas. Why? because of the Geneva Convention.

Yeah right ... Israel has rightly said to the world F ... you. Take your Geneva Convention and stick it up you know where... These cockroaches are going to die along with anyone who stands in the way.

@earl-of-trumps said
@Rajk999 - The land of Palestine never belonged to anyone [many nations lived there]

And it especially never belonged to European Zionists. At least the Palestinians held title to their own land.

get your facts right

Care to provide some proof that European Zionists never owned land in Palestine?

@vivify said
The fact that Hamas hides among civilians doesn't justify civilians being slaughtered.

And yet you Zionists use the myth that all Gazan hospitals are riddled with Hamas headquarter tunnels to justify the slaughter, not merely of civilians, but of patients.

@rajk999 said
Hamas raped and massacred, roasted babies in ovens,

Oh, come on! This is the old Blood Libel, this time used by Jews against their enemies. And it's as disgusting a lie this time as it was in the middle ages.

@shallow-blue said
And yet you Zionists use the myth that all Gazan hospitals are riddled with Hamas headquarter tunnels to justify the slaughter, not merely of civilians, but of patients.

I just told you that Hamas hiding among civilians doesn't justify the slaughter.

You are one slow retard.

@shallow-blue said
Oh, come on! This is the old Blood Libel, this time used by Jews against their enemies. And it's as disgusting a lie this time as it was in the middle ages.

Got some facts to support your point, or are we supposed to accept your word for it?