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https://www.cbsnews.com/news/israel-hamas-war-idf-palestinian-prisoner-alleged-rape-sde-teinman-abuse-protest/

Israeli lawmaker defends alleged rape of Hamas prisoner as far-right protesters rage over IDF troops' detention

Ultra-right-wing Israeli nationalists stormed two military facilities late Monday, protesting the detention and questioning of nine Israel Defense Forces reservists suspected of raping and abusing a Palestinian prisoner whose injuries were so bad he had to be hospitalized.

A member of Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu's Likud party, speaking Monday at a meeting of lawmakers, justified the rape and abuse of Palestinian prisoners, shouting angrily at colleagues questioning the alleged behavior that anything was legitimate to do to "terrorists" in custody.

Lawmaker Hanoch Milwidsky was asked as he defended the alleged abuse whether it was legitimate, "to insert a stick into a person's rectum?"

"Yes!" he shouted in reply to his fellow parliamentarian. "If he is a Nukhba [Hamas militant], everything is legitimate to do! Everything!"

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Right-wing Israelis stormed a military prison and attacked cops in defense of people accused of a serious crime. Sounds eerily familiar..

Typically I only discuss the Israeli government when it comes to racist brutality of Palestinians. But it's clear there is a shocking amount of right-wing Israeli citizens who not only condone vile human rights violations but encourage it.

Israel's government is frequently and rightly criticized for their racism and war crimes but not enough focus is on the alarmingly widespread culture festering in Israel.

Don't get me wrong: many thousands of Israelis protested in the streets multiple times against the war and called for Netanyahu's removal. I'm grateful for them. But the reality is that the most openly far-right government in Israel's history had enough support from the people to gain power.

I think this culture will only get worse.

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https://www.timesofisrael.com/bordering-on-anarchy-idf-chief-sounds-alarm-after-right-wing-mob-overruns-2nd-base/

I should also point out that not one of the thousands of protestors who stormed the prison and attacked the guards were arrested.

Not a single arrest for breaking into a miliary base and attacking officers to defend rapists.

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Attrocious behaviour.

And the opinions of these people are abhorrent. Seriously bad karma. Not constructive. And it won’t win you in any baby-sitting jobs.

Well, they don’t work, so they probably don’t mins.

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@vivify said
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/israel-hamas-war-idf-palestinian-prisoner-alleged-rape-sde-teinman-abuse-protest/

Israeli lawmaker defends alleged rape of Hamas prisoner as far-right protesters rage over IDF troops' detention

Ultra-right-wing Israeli nationalists stormed two military facilities late Monday, protesting the detention and questioning of nine Isra ...[text shortened]... mentarian. "If he is a Nukhba [Hamas militant], everything is legitimate to do! Everything!"
This is one Hamas terrorist that being abused. This is a man who is likely part of the Oct 7th terrorist attack on Israell where1400 civilian Jews were raped and murdered in the most horrendous fashion, babies were burned, women were raped and killed and 400 were kidnapped. To this day these sick cockroaches are still holding 200 hostages and many are being raped as we speak.

If this is the man you are defending, you are just as sick.

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@Rajk999 said
If this is the man you are defending, you are just as sick.
"If" this is the man? Your response is to defend the violent rape of a suspect who hasn't even been tried yet?

You have no idea whether he was involved in Oct 7th (or even why he was arrested) yet are upset that I denounce rape of a potentially innocent man with a broom stick. Who's the "sick" one here?

Based on your outrage it seems you are okay with using violent rape as punishment for crime. Your use of "sick" lacks any self-awareness.

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@vivify said
"If" this is the man? Your response is to defend the violent rape of a suspect who hasn't even been tried yet?

You have no idea whether he was involved in Oct 7th (or even why he was arrested) yet are upset that someone criticizes rape of a potentially innocent man with a broom stick. Who's the "sick" one here?

Based on your outrage it seems you are okay with using violent rape as punishment for crime. Your use of "sick" lacks any self-awareness.
There are many other reports of that incident. I read a few of them. This man is a Hamas terrorist. You chose not to post these. Google it and read it. This man is a Hamas terrorist, and has no rights. They should kill and bastard and be done with him.

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@Rajk999 said
There are many other reports of that incident. I read a few of them. This man is a Hamas terrorist. You chose not to post these.
Says Rajk as he chooses not to post these reports.

You say the prisoner has "no rights". What separates civilized societies from vile dictatorships is belief in human rights, even for potential criminals. You are no different from any terrorist.

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@vivify said
Says Rajk as he chooses not post these reports.

You say the prisoner has "no rights". What separates civilized societies from vile dictatorships is belief in human rights, even for potential criminals. You are no different from any terrorist.
You are missing a few screws. In your stupid society, which you think is advanced and civilized, criminals have more rights than the victim. There are many cases where the rapist [for example], escapes prosecution and walks free while the victim is blamed and charged.

These are killers and criminals which the Jews have to deal with. Israel does not need, neither does it care for your ignorant opinion on how to handle this situation.
So maybe you should clean up your own house which is full of garbage instead of condemning others.

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@Rajk999 said
You are missing a few screws. In your stupid society, which you think is advanced and civilized, criminals have more rights than the victim. There are many cases where the rapist [for example], escapes prosecution and walks free while the victim is blamed and charged.

These are killers and criminals which the Jews have to deal with. Israel does not need, neither does ...[text shortened]...
So maybe you should clean up your own house which is full of garbage instead of condemning others.
Netanyahu is one such criminal who will escape prosecution, both for his war crimes and corruption in office.

The U.S. being "garbage" doesn't make you or these Israelis any less vile for justifying violent rape,

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@Rajk999 said
This is one Hamas terrorist that being abused.
Also incorrect:

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2024-07-31/un-report-on-palestinian-detainees-torture-waterboarding/104166500

Detained Palestinians subjected to waterboarding, electric shocks and other forms of torture in Israeli prisons, UN report says

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@vivify said
Netanyahu is one such criminal who will escape prosecution, both for his war crimes and corruption in office.

The U.S. being "garbage" doesn't make you or these Israelis any less vile for justifying violent rape,
War crimes need to be proven and it is often done by showing that the Geneva Convention guidelines were violated, and is done through the ICC. So far petitions have been made by member states to the ICJ and there is no arrest warrant issued for Netanyahu. So its not a matter of escaping prosecution. There is simply no case except in your deluded mind caused by some sick love for Palestinian terrorists because you hate Jews.

Corruption in office is the business of the Israeli courts and not any concern of mine.

Dozens of Jewish girls and women were raped on Oct 7th and some are still hostages and are being raped right now. The vile people are those like you who support Palestinian terrorists.

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@vivify said
Also incorrect:

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2024-07-31/un-report-on-palestinian-detainees-torture-waterboarding/104166500

Detained Palestinians subjected to waterboarding, electric shocks and other forms of torture in Israeli prisons, UN report says
Nice ... serves them right. Hamas holds Jewish hostages, and are raping them. Its a simple matter. Release the Jewish hostages, and the war will be over. The war continues. So dont expect any pity.

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@Rajk999 said
War crimes need to be proven
Bingo. So do alleged acts of terrorism.

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@vivify said
Bingo. So do alleged acts of terrorism.
A member of a terrorist group is a terrorist.
No further proof is required.

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