It's March 11 again

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You mean saving lives of it's own citizens?

The U.S. has (or had) the largest amount of Covid cases, the most fatalies from the virus and the highest rate of deaths per capita; which is pretty high considering the U.S. is the third most populated nation on earth.

Give those statistics, claiming the U.S. is selfish for purchasing a high amount vaccines in order to inoculate it's large population, is a stupid post.

The U.S. has a lot it can easily be criticized for, from it's warmongering, to racism to it's history of genocide, such as against Native Americans. Of all the things to criticize the U.S. for, being concerned with vaccinating it's own citizens, after the previous president's lying and inaction caused needless death and suffering, is not one of them.

@no1marauder said
In June, you were arguing that the IFR was well under 0.5% i.e. at 0.2% or lower. NOW, you seem to be saying that it was well over that THEN but is considerably lower NOW. Why should I take your claim any more seriously NOW then I did THEN?

"COVID panic-monger"? In my wildest dreams, I never expected political officials, both in certain States and at the Federal level ...[text shortened]... November 30th, even with conservative estimates, yield a higher than 0.5% IFR.

Where am I wrong?

In other words, you don't want to address my points.

Noted.

It's all but impossible that the IFR has not dropped from the days the NY hospitals were overwhelmed, no drugs had been approved to treat COVID to the days that Dexamethasone, monoclonal antibody treatments, prone positioning, intubation avoidance until there's no other choice and other ideas have been discovered.

I'm sorry that you thought 550k deaths was impossible given that the Imperial College report projected 2.2 million (https://www.nytimes.com/2020/03/17/world/europe/coronavirus-imperial-college-johnson.html). I didn't.

Spiking the football on my optimistic hopes that the .2% IFR studies were right in the Spring doesn't make my current .5% IFR estimate any more wrong.

@sh76 said
In other words, you don't want to address my points.

Noted.

It's all but impossible that the IFR has not dropped from the days the NY hospitals were overwhelmed, no drugs had been approved to treat COVID to the days that Dexamethasone, monoclonal antibody treatments, prone positioning, intubation avoidance until there's no other choice and other ideas have been discovered. ...[text shortened]... he .2% IFR studies were right in the Spring doesn't make my current .5% IFR estimate any more wrong.

I dealt with your points.

The Imperial College estimate was based on NO protective measures or any changes in pre-pandemic behavior at all. This was always an unrealistic sets of assumptions as the authors acknowledged. Surely you know this and are just being disingenuous to the point of dishonesty.

I showed why A) Your 0.2% IFR was ridiculous last Spring AND Summer; and B) Why your current belief that the IFR is under 0.5% is also wrong based on actual official figures. You've shown absolutely nothing but your "beliefs" that it is. But this is Debates, not Spirituality.