Originally posted by whodey Biden is at it again. Now he is saying that automatic weapons are not needed to defend yourself. In fact, using a shot gun is far easier.
Originally posted by whodey Did you watch the video?
No.
You said "Now [Biden] is saying that automatic weapons are not needed to defend yourself". I was just interested in the question of who is arguing that automatic weapons are needed to defend yourself.
Originally posted by sh76 I don't know much about guns but it does appear that Biden's claim that a shotgun is easier to use than an AR-15 is a dubious claim.
Is the assertion of the right to own automatic weapons mainstream in the U.S.? Even many of the pro-gun posters here seem to not go as far claiming automatic weapons are necessary or appropriate, unless I have misunderstood.
Originally posted by joe beyser Yes. Should the US military or UN or other foreign military engage the citizens of the United States they will be necessary.
My guess is they would be more useful against people who think they might need them against the US military or the UN.
Originally posted by KazetNagorra My guess is they would be more useful against people who think they might need them against the US military or the UN.
Originally posted by FMF Is the assertion of the right to own automatic weapons mainstream in the U.S.? Even many of the pro-gun posters here seem to not go as far claiming automatic weapons are necessary or appropriate, unless I have misunderstood.
Fully automatic weapons have been controlled in the U.S. since the prohibition era, (National Firearms Act, 1934), and the transfer of newly manufactured machine guns was banned in 1986. So effectively you're only allowed a machine gun if it's more than 27 years old. Whether ownership is allowed depends on the State, they are sought after by collectors and fetch relatively high prices due to their scarcity. Their scarcity means that they're not the big problem, most gun crimes in the U.S. revolve around hand guns. The NRA will campaign to assert the right to own fully automatic weapons as much to avoid regulations by trying to gain momentum in the other direction than in any real expectation that the Federal law will be relaxed.
Originally posted by FMF Is the assertion of the right to own automatic weapons mainstream in the U.S.? Even many of the pro-gun posters here seem to not go as far claiming automatic weapons are necessary or appropriate, unless I have misunderstood.
I am certainly in favor of reasonable restrictions on automatic weapons. As for others in the US, it's probably something like 50-50 (it's a red state-blue state sort of issue) when it comes to regulation of semi-automatic weapons; I'm sure more than 50% would agree with restrictions on fully automatic weapons.
But in the video, Biden does make a claim that is dubious, even if the reason he's making the claim is legitimate.
Originally posted by sh76 I don't know much about guns but it does appear that Biden's claim that a shotgun is easier to use than an AR-15 is a dubious claim.
BS. Semi-auto weapons have the greatest risk for accidents and injury, especially for inexperienced shooters.
Joe Biden says go buy a shot gun
01 Mar '13 13:34
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