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  1. Zugzwang
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    21 Sep '18 19:341 edit
    https://www.theguardian.com/world/2018/sep/21/julian-assange-russia-ecuador-embassy-london-secret-escape-plan

    "Revealed: Russia’s secret plan to help Julian Assange escape from UK
    Tentative plot to whisk fugitive from London embassy on Christmas Eve
    was considered too risky."

    "Sources said the escape plot involved giving Assange diplomatic documents
    so that Ecuador would be able to claim he enjoyed diplomatic immunity.
    As part of the operation, Assange was to be collected from the embassy
    in a diplomatic vehicle.

    Four separate sources said the Kremlin was willing to offer support for
    the plan – including the possibility of allowing Assange to travel to Russia
    and live there. One of them said that an unidentified Russian businessman
    served as an intermediary in these discussions.'

    "Assange’s Christmas Eve escape was aborted with just days to go,
    one source claimed. Rommy Vallejo, the head of Ecuador’s intelligence
    agency, allegedly travelled to the UK on or around 15 December 2017
    to oversee the operation and left London when it was called off."

    "During the US presidential campaign, Donald Trump praised WikiLeaks
    for releasing the emails that damaged Clinton. Confidential visitor logs
    obtained by the Guardian reveal that Assange received several Russian
    nationals during the summer of 2016, including senior figures from RT,
    the Kremlin’s international propaganda channel.

    In March 2017 WikiLeaks published confidential CIA documents.
    Assange believes a grand jury indicted him over this and other leaks,
    with the charges filed under seal. Were he to leave the embassy the
    US would seek his extradition, his lawyers say."
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    22 Sep '18 12:151 edit
    I wish mr Julian Assange all of good luck for his future.
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    22 Sep '18 13:05
    Originally posted by @duchess64
    https://www.theguardian.com/world/2018/sep/21/julian-assange-russia-ecuador-embassy-london-secret-escape-plan

    "Revealed: Russia’s secret plan to help Julian Assange escape from UK
    Tentative plot to whisk fugitive from London embassy on Christmas Eve
    was considered too risky."

    "Sources said the escape plot involved giving Assange diplomatic docume ...[text shortened]... under seal. Were he to leave the embassy the
    US would seek his extradition, his lawyers say."
    Julian Assange saved America from the evil liberal democrats.
  4. SubscriberWOLFE63
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    22 Sep '18 13:18
    Originally posted by @mott-the-hoople
    Julian Assange saved America from the evil liberal democrats.
    Hoople's hoping for their replacement by beneficent Bolsheviks maybe?
  5. Zugzwang
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    22 Sep '18 18:181 edit
    Originally posted by @fabianfnas
    I wish mr Julian Assange all of good luck for his future.
    Through hiding in Ecuador's Embassy in London, Julian Assange has managed to get
    several Swedish allegations of sexual assault dropped because their statute of limitations expired.
    As far as I know, a pending charge of 'lesser degree rape' is not due to expire until 2020.
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    23 Sep '18 05:47
    Originally posted by @duchess64
    Through hiding in Ecuador's Embassy in London, Julian Assange has managed to get
    several Swedish allegations of sexual assault dropped because their statute of limitations expired.
    As far as I know, a pending charge of 'lesser degree rape' is not due to expire until 2020.
    You know why mr Assange rather stay at the Embassy of Ecuador, than go to Sweden for prosecution of sexual assaults, don't you?
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    23 Sep '18 13:12
    Originally posted by @wolfe63
    Hoople's hoping for their replacement by beneficent Bolsheviks maybe?
    actually that would be better than clinton
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    23 Sep '18 13:151 edit
    Originally posted by @fabianfnas
    You know why mr Assange rather stay at the Embassy of Ecuador, than go to Sweden for prosecution of sexual assaults, don't you?
    you are ignorant of the facts...and doucheless lied about the dropped charges.
    https://www.theguardian.com/media/2017/may/19/swedish-prosecutors-drop-julian-assange-investigation
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    23 Sep '18 14:36
    Originally posted by @mott-the-hoople
    you are ignorant of the facts...and doucheless lied about the dropped charges.
    https://www.theguardian.com/media/2017/may/19/swedish-prosecutors-drop-julian-assange-investigation
    Some charges are dropped, some are not.
    The Brits wants him, and the route from the embassy to the Russian airplane is over British soil. Then they take him!
  10. Zugzwang
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    23 Sep '18 23:371 edit
    Originally posted by @mott-the-hoople to FabianFnas
    you are ignorant of the facts...and doucheless lied about the dropped charges.
    https://www.theguardian.com/media/2017/may/19/swedish-prosecutors-drop-julian-assange-investigation
    The lying troll Mott-the-Hoopie keeps lying like usual.
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    24 Sep '18 00:15
    Originally posted by @fabianfnas
    I wish mr Julian Assange all of good luck for his future.
    He's gonna need it. Seems his lawyer are disappearing and dying.
  12. Zugzwang
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    24 Sep '18 00:27
    Originally posted by @duchess64
    Through hiding in Ecuador's Embassy in London, Julian Assange has managed to get
    several Swedish allegations of sexual assault dropped because their statute of limitations expired.
    As far as I know, a pending charge of 'lesser degree rape' is not due to expire until 2020.
    Like every other accused person, Julian Assange's entitled to a presumption of innocence.

    His supporters should consider the possibility, however, that the same person may be
    capable of doing admirable things sometimes and despicable things at other times.
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    24 Sep '18 08:08
    Originally posted by @duchess64
    Like every other accused person, Julian Assange's entitled to a presumption of innocence.

    His supporters should consider the possibility, however, that the same person may be
    capable of doing admirable things sometimes and despicable things at other times.
    Well, you know what Mr Assange is accused of. Do you know the reason he is accused of that? Do you know the political implications?
    I know. Mr Assange knows. Do you know?
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    24 Sep '18 16:36
    Assange is a hero. The establishment is just ticked off because they got caught with their pants down violating the constitution (4th amendment rights).
  15. Zugzwang
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    24 Sep '18 19:462 edits
    Originally posted by @fabianfnas
    Well, you know what Mr Assange is accused of. Do you know the reason he is accused of that? Do you know the political implications?
    I know. Mr Assange knows. Do you know?
    FabianFnas apparently has no doubt that the Swedish women's accusations that Julian
    Assange sexually assaulted them must be false and maliciously politically motivated.

    (Note to the troll Divegeester, the "New Statesman' is NOT the 'Guardian'.)

    https://www.newstatesman.com/2013/02/jemima-khan-julian-assange-how-wikileaks-founder-alienated-his-allies

    "Jemima Khan on Julian Assange: how the Wikileaks founder alienated his allies.
    WikiLeaks – whose mission statement was “to produce a more just society based upon
    truth” – has been guilty of the same obfuscation and misinformation as those it sought
    to expose, while its supporters are expected to follow, unquestioningly."

    "I have seen flashes of Assange’s charm, brilliance and insightfulness – but I have also seen
    how instantaneous rock-star status has the power to make even the most clear-headed
    idealist feel that they are above the law and exempt from criticism."
    --Jemima Goldsmith Khan
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