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    23 Oct '18 15:47
    Some people are skeptical that Khashoggi's apple watch was recording his murder. I don't know that much about cell phone technology so I will ask those that do to give their opinions on this matter.

    https://www.bbc.com/news/technology-45857777

    There is another possibility that the Turks would not reveal voluntarily. They could have bugged the consulate. Bugging of embassies has happened before.

    http://www.moscowveteran.org/sites/default/files/Moscow%20Embassy%20Construction%202012-08-21.pdf

    https://www.cia.gov/library/center-for-the-study-of-intelligence/kent-csi/vol47no1/html/v47i1a02p.htm
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    23 Oct '18 17:40
    @metal-brain said
    Some people are skeptical that Khashoggi's apple watch was recording his murder. I don't know that much about cell phone technology so I will ask those that do to give their opinions on this matter.

    https://www.bbc.com/news/technology-45857777

    There is another possibility that the Turks would not reveal voluntarily. They could have bugged the consulate. Bugging of e ...[text shortened]... ttps://www.cia.gov/library/center-for-the-study-of-intelligence/kent-csi/vol47no1/html/v47i1a02p.htm
    We KNOW the Turks bugged that embassy, the question is whether they included hidden video cams as well.

    The idea that a 60 yo not too healthy man would get into a fist fight is ridiculous on the face of it and Trump of course buys into it 100% because he is one of the weakest ass presidents to come down the pike in America.

    He can't stand up to either Putin, the crown prince or Un of NK but is GREAT at dissing our real allies.

    What do they call that?

    Oh yeah.


    Treason.

    That is the only word that fully describes what Trump is doing.

    And that is BESIDES the other many layers of corruption going on under you unseeing nose BESIDES any pee pee tapes and the fact he is recorded on audio saying how he liked to grab pussy.

    I guess that matches your OWN POV, right?
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    24 Oct '18 00:56
    @sonhouse said
    We KNOW the Turks bugged that embassy, the question is whether they included hidden video cams as well.

    The idea that a 60 yo not too healthy man would get into a fist fight is ridiculous on the face of it and Trump of course buys into it 100% because he is one of the weakest ass presidents to come down the pike in America.

    He can't stand up to either Putin, the crow ...[text shortened]... is recorded on audio saying how he liked to grab pussy.

    I guess that matches your OWN POV, right?
    Trump doesn't believe it, he just doesn't care. He could be honest and say economic interests are more important than the life of a journalist but that would be too honest.
    All presidents were well aware of SA's horrible human rights abuses and did nothing. The truth is none of them cared. Democrats and republicans both, didn't give a crap about public beheadings of people who merely criticized the kingdom. The only thing new about this is that it took place on foreign land. That and the dismemberment that may have been done while he was still alive. I'm still waiting for the recordings to be released for confirmation of that.

    "We KNOW the Turks bugged that embassy"

    Can you post a link confirming that?
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    24 Oct '18 03:451 edit
    https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2018-10-10/u-s-knew-of-saudi-plan-to-seize-missing-journalist-post-says?srnd=premium

    https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2018-10-10/turkey-releases-video-khashoggis-alleged-killers-entering-country-identifies-15
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    24 Oct '18 04:02
    @sonhouse said
    We KNOW the Turks bugged that embassy, the question is whether they included hidden video cams as well.

    The idea that a 60 yo not too healthy man would get into a fist fight is ridiculous on the face of it and Trump of course buys into it 100% because he is one of the weakest ass presidents to come down the pike in America.

    He can't stand up to either Putin, the crow ...[text shortened]... is recorded on audio saying how he liked to grab pussy.

    I guess that matches your OWN POV, right?
    Well, they had video outside of the consulate. Given that the Turks identified the Saudi hit squad I wonder what will happen to them. They were loyal to the regime on one hand, got caught on the other.

    https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2018-10-10/turkey-releases-video-khashoggis-alleged-killers-entering-country-identifies-15
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    24 Oct '18 11:56
    @metal-brain said
    Some people are skeptical that Khashoggi's apple watch was recording his murder. I don't know that much about cell phone technology so I will ask those that do to give their opinions on this matter.

    https://www.bbc.com/news/technology-45857777

    There is another possibility that the Turks would not reveal voluntarily. They could have bugged the consulate. Bugging of e ...[text shortened]... ttps://www.cia.gov/library/center-for-the-study-of-intelligence/kent-csi/vol47no1/html/v47i1a02p.htm
    turkey does not have LTE which would be required to do this. It would be possible thru wifi or blue tooth but there would have to be specific settings made before hand.
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    @sonhouse said
    We KNOW the Turks bugged that embassy, the question is whether they included hidden video cams as well.

    The idea that a 60 yo not too healthy man would get into a fist fight is ridiculous on the face of it and Trump of course buys into it 100% because he is one of the weakest ass presidents to come down the pike in America.

    He can't stand up to either Putin, the crow ...[text shortened]... is recorded on audio saying how he liked to grab pussy.

    I guess that matches your OWN POV, right?
    " Trump of course buys into it 100% because he is one of the weakest ass presidents to come down the pike in America. "

    Trump gave the investigation time to be done. He now says it was one of the biggest cover ups of all time.

    Just about all of your post is nothing more than BS!
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    25 Oct '18 14:24
    @mott-the-hoople said
    " Trump of course buys into it 100% because he is one of the weakest ass presidents to come down the pike in America. "

    Trump gave the investigation time to be done. He now says it was one of the biggest cover ups of all time.

    Just about all of your post is nothing more than BS!
    Trump likely knew all about it.

    https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2018-10-10/u-s-knew-of-saudi-plan-to-seize-missing-journalist-post-says?srnd=premium&fbclid=IwAR3FHz5naU4GsHyxqb_ClwNTbN2Rhp6TWXI1I4EyWJaUQsbgl8kBVj9Tde0
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    @metal-brain said
    Trump likely knew all about it.

    https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2018-10-10/u-s-knew-of-saudi-plan-to-seize-missing-journalist-post-says?srnd=premium&fbclid=IwAR3FHz5naU4GsHyxqb_ClwNTbN2Rhp6TWXI1I4EyWJaUQsbgl8kBVj9Tde0
    LOL
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    26 Oct '18 22:28
    @mott-the-hoople said
    LOL
    It doesn't matter how much Trump disgraces himself and America, you will support him till he is in jail and probably even after that, claiming it was a political witch hunt till the day you die.
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    27 Oct '18 06:11
    @sonhouse said
    It doesn't matter how much Trump disgraces himself and America, you will support him till he is in jail and probably even after that, claiming it was a political witch hunt till the day you die.
    Simple question. Witch hunt or not a witch hunt?

    https://www.realclearpolitics.com/articles/2017/05/21/when_comey_and_mueller_bungled_the_anthrax_case_133953.html
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    @mott-the-hoople said
    turkey does not have LTE which would be required to do this. It would be possible thru wifi or blue tooth but there would have to be specific settings made before hand.
    How were the Saudis able to track his phone? Here is an excerpt from the link below:

    "It wasn't just that the Saudi government used Hacking Team's tools on Jamal Khashoggi and anyone who came near him. They did. One of the Saudi agents identified as being part of the 15-member assassination team was a man named Maher Abdulaziz Mutreb. BBC Arabic revealed that Mutreb, a colonel in Saudi intelligence, took a two-week training in digital surveillance tools by Hacking Team. Apparently he excelled at the physical security aspects, but not so much on the skills required to be a murderous computer-toucher. Was it his plan to wear the fake beard and wrong shoes that fooled no one? We wonder. Regardless, Mutreb learned how to use hacking tools on civilians from Hacking Team."

    https://www.engadget.com/2018/10/26/khashoggi-saudi-arabia-hacking-team-tech-blood-money/?yptr=yahoo
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