Kick in the balls for populism

Originally posted by KazetNagorra
It might make one believe what sort of consequences hate, bigotry and racism might have.

Yet not question what a dominating government might do?

Originally posted by shavixmir
Sort of like Rutte not standing up to Erdogan?
Or the Dutch having an average of 4,5 weeks of paid vacation a year... and the lowest prison population in the world and one of the lowest crime rates...

Classic Dutch food is crap though... I'll give you that with a frikandel drowned in mayonnaise...

Hey don't knock the frickendells.

Originally posted by Eladar
Yet not question what a dominating government might do?

A dominating government like one that doesn't tell people what supernatural beings to believe in.

Originally posted by shavixmir
Germany too!

Oh yes, believe it or not, they have right-wing populists as well (somehow one just can't imagine something like that in Germany....).

I don't regard them as a serious threat though. They don't even have a chance in Germany.

Originally posted by kmax87
Hey don't knock the frickendells.

Oh really?
I raise you hutspot then!

Originally posted by KazetNagorra
A dominating government like one that doesn't tell people what supernatural beings to believe in.

True.

The lefty spin on this is amazing, the PVV won 5 more seats than they previously had (a total of 20) and its the end of populism in Europe and a victory for tolerance. Who writes this and who believes it? VVD -8

Originally posted by robbie carrobie
The lefty spin on this is amazing, the PVV won 5 more seats than they previously had (a total of 20) and its the end of populism in Europe and a victory for tolerance. Who writes this and who believes it? VVD -8

Well, anti-immigrant parties won 22 out of 150 seats.
That means they vocal, but hardly a trend.

Anti-europe parties scored very little as well.

Is this not their highest ever number of seats? How does this equate to the lefties Gaurdianesque spin of an end to populist vote in Europe.

Originally posted by robbie carrobie
Is this not their highest ever number of seats? How does this equate to the lefties Gaurdianesque spin of an end to populist vote in Europe.

The PVV won 24 seats in 2010. So it appears that the brand of neo-fascism embodied by the PVV, and its more moderate predecessor (the LPF, which gained 26 seats at its peak in 2002), has been approximately constant in popularity over the past two decades - although that is significantly more than what neo-fascist parties gained up to the late 1990s.

Originally posted by KazetNagorra
The PVV won 24 seats in 2010. So it appears that the brand of neo-fascism embodied by the PVV, and its more moderate predecessor (the LPF, which gained 26 seats at its peak in 2002), has been approximately constant in popularity over the past two decades - although that is significantly more than what neo-fascist parties gained up to the late 1990s.

How many did the winning party get? like about thirty or something, its hardly much more.

Originally posted by robbie carrobie
How many did the winning party get? like about thirty or something, its hardly much more.

VVD got 33. And? The number of parties in Parliament went up from 11 to 13 and many smaller parties made moderate to large gains.

Originally posted by KazetNagorra
VVD got 33. And? The number of parties in Parliament went up from 11 to 13 and many smaller parties made moderate to large gains.

So the winning party actually lost seats. The idea that the European populist vote is dead is simply ludicrous and typical Guardian propaganda.

Originally posted by robbie carrobie
So the winning party actually lost seats. The idea that the European populist vote is dead is simply ludicrous and typical Guardian propaganda.

Er no.
If you look at the amount of attention the EU populism gets (especially in the Netherlands) and you look at the results (22 out of 150 seats.... forum voor Democratie is a right-wing populist party as well) then suddenly the anti-immigrant, anti-EU populism can be seen for what it is: a very verbal, stupid, minority.

Originally posted by shavixmir
Er no.
If you look at the amount of attention the EU populism gets (especially in the Netherlands) and you look at the results (22 out of 150 seats.... forum voor Democratie is a right-wing populist party as well) then suddenly the anti-immigrant, anti-EU populism can be seen for what it is: a very verbal, stupid, minority.

Its a minority but its not that much of a minority, not as much as the Guardian are making out. Infact it came in second.