1. Standard memberSoothfast
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    Discuss!
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    I didn't think anything would top Chauvin getting stabbed but you've done it.

    Well done.
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    One less bastard on the planet.
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    @vivify said
    I didn't think anything would top Chauvin getting stabbed but you've done it.

    Well done.
    I'm not sure I know what you mean.
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    @soothfast said
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    Kissinger's legacy?

    Kissinger's death?

    His weird name?

    He wrote exceedingly well, that's about the highest compliment I could give in a eulogy.
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    @shavixmir said
    One less bastard on the planet.
    Yes, that is true. And he's not likely to get invited to any of Hitler's dinner parties in Hell. He'll have to get all his gossip second-hand through Nixon and Reagan.
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    @wildgrass said
    Kissinger's legacy?

    Kissinger's death?

    His weird name?

    He wrote exceedingly well, that's about the highest compliment I could give in a eulogy.
    It's a big topic. His death is a biological fact, and his name on par with Dr. Strangelove. What's left is his legacy. Decades of it, in government and politics.
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    @soothfast said
    It's a big topic. His death is a biological fact, and his name on par with Dr. Strangelove. What's left is his legacy. Decades of it, in government and politics.
    Can you frame the debate question?
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    @wildgrass said
    Can you frame the debate question?
    Overall, was Kissinger an able statesman who made a positive contribution to humanity, or was he not? There is no shortage of folks who say he has considerable blood on his hands.
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    @soothfast said
    Overall, was Kissinger an able statesman who made a positive contribution to humanity, or was he not? There is no shortage of folks who say he has considerable blood on his hands.
    The man was a right-wing kunt, with no grasp of effectual international diplomacy. He brought the world to edge of disaster; more than once, lots of his advice was utter madness and he supported many evil regimes.

    I do not comprehend why Americans are so in love with him.
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    @shavixmir said
    The man was a right-wing kunt, with no grasp of effectual international diplomacy. He brought the world to edge of disaster; more than once, lots of his advice was utter madness and he supported many evil regimes.

    I do not comprehend why Americans are so in love with him.
    He, along with Nixon, also managed to extend the time America spent in Vietnam, costing even more young American lives than had already been wasted in the lost war.
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    @soothfast said
    It's a big topic. His death is a biological fact, and his name on par with Dr. Strangelove. What's left is his legacy. Decades of it, in government and politics.
    Like most historically significant people it’s not black and white but a mixed bag of good, evil and average.
    His biggest evils were probably the carpet bombing of Cambodia simply because it was part of N Vietnam’s supply route to the south and his support of Pinochet and his coup.
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    @soothfast said
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    what's to discuss. that man's life had no value and the world is a better place without him in it
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    @soothfast said
    Overall, was Kissinger an able statesman who made a positive contribution to humanity, or was he not? There is no shortage of folks who say he has considerable blood on his hands.
    His peace treaty with No. Vietnam, for which he was awarded a Nobel prize, “peace with honor”, was a complete sham. It sealed an ignominious defeat for America and sold the So. Vietnamese into Communist servitude.
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    @soothfast said
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    I was never a fan of his political views, however like Charlie Munger (the late vice chair of Berkshire Hathaway) Kissinger maintained a structured day filled with reading, journaling, and work. Keeping one's mind active and focused on tasks requiring both creative and linear thinking seems to aid in longevity.
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