Krugman and America's Left

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Originally posted by Seitse
I pick... I pick... what's behind curtain number 3!!
It's a goat.

Insanity at Masada

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Originally posted by Palynka
It's a goat.
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Originally posted by sh76
Carter's ineffectiveness led to the success of the Reagan revolution.
Carter was a man of integrity. Owning up to the Panama Canal Treaty was the correct thing to do. Carter should have shared the Nobel Peace Prize with Begin and Sadat.

Carter surely gets a undeserved swipe by you and others.

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Originally posted by badmoon
Carter was a man of integrity. Owning up to the Panama Canal Treaty was the correct thing to do. Carter should have shared the Nobel Peace Prize with Begin and Sadat.

Carter surely gets a undeserved swipe by you and others.
It's the Israel thing, sh76 gets his knickers in a twist every time someone mentions it.

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Originally posted by badmoon
Carter was a man of integrity. Owning up to the Panama Canal Treaty was the correct thing to do. Carter should have shared the Nobel Peace Prize with Begin and Sadat.

Carter surely gets a undeserved swipe by you and others.
Carter was a likable good old boy. He was the first President I recall being critiqued for governing by focus group, only they weren't even called that in those days.

I truly think he was over his head off the peanut farm, and his economy was the worst since the Great Depression.

Since then, he's managed to confirm he's a clueless bumbler, by making a career of building $100 K homes at a cost of $150 K with volunteer labor.

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01 May 11

Originally posted by Palynka
Interesting article:
http://nymag.com/print/?/news/politics/paul-krugman-2011-5/

On a side note, I may not have given Krugman enough credit. I have always found his blog opinions suffered from a tendency for hyperbole and exaggeration that I didn't care much for. Seems they could be deliberate and part of a strategy.
I think is is laughable that Obama takes heat for being not far left enough. On the heals of the worst midterm pounding in memory, the far left wanted him to do more?

For all his faults, Obama is a survivor, and would like a second term, with at least some support of his party in Congress. Had he done as suggested, he may have ended up with neither.

Also, the notion of the left's death is highly exagerated. Republican Presidents have been for the most part leftist, Nixon, Ford, and two Bushs moved the political center left arguably as much as the Democrats in between.

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Originally posted by normbenign
Carter was a likable good old boy. He was the first President I recall being critiqued for governing by focus group, only they weren't even called that in those days.

I truly think he was over his head off the peanut farm, and his economy was the worst since the Great Depression.

Since then, he's managed to confirm he's a clueless bumbler, by making a career of building $100 K homes at a cost of $150 K with volunteer labor.
The worst since the Great Depression? Come on. Like I said, he was nothing special, but not nearly as bad as Reagan. During Carter's administration unemployment and public debt dropped.

Civis Americanus Sum

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Originally posted by KazetNagorra
It's the Israel thing, sh76 gets his knickers in a twist every time someone mentions it.
Gee, KN, thanks for the gratuitous shot.

Civis Americanus Sum

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Originally posted by badmoon
Carter was a man of integrity. Owning up to the Panama Canal Treaty was the correct thing to do. Carter should have shared the Nobel Peace Prize with Begin and Sadat.

Carter surely gets a undeserved swipe by you and others.
Carter's got a lot of things, but integrity ain't one of them.

Edit: If "was" was really an operative word in your sentence, then perhaps we can come closer to agreement.

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Originally posted by sh76
.........Edit: If "was" was really an operative word in your sentence, then perhaps we can come closer to agreement.
...you're a starr, counselor!

Civis Americanus Sum

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Originally posted by kmax87
...you're a starr, counselor!
not Ken Starr, I hope.


😉

Blade Runner

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Originally posted by sh76
not Ken Starr, I hope.


😉
well your slight political bias suggests you're not independent, so no 😛

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Originally posted by sh76
Gee, KN, thanks for the gratuitous shot.
What was 'gratuitous', the presumptuous intimacy of the feminine underwear reference, or being reminded that whatever form of underpants you actually do wear do seem to - allegedly - knot and chafe when certain topics come up?

Civis Americanus Sum

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Originally posted by FMF
What was 'gratuitous', the presumptuous intimacy of the feminine underwear reference, or being reminded that whatever form of underpants you actually do wear do seem to - allegedly - knot and chafe when certain topics come up?
yes

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Originally posted by KazetNagorra
The worst since the Great Depression? Come on. Like I said, he was nothing special, but not nearly as bad as Reagan. During Carter's administration unemployment and public debt dropped.
You apparently live overseas. I lived here during both the Carter and Reagan administrations. Toward the end of Carter's we had a "misery index", and had what economists had thought impossible, double digit unemployment, interest rates, and inflation.

We also had a low point in foreign respect with a tin horn religious dictator kidnapping our entire embassy staff and holding them hostage for years.

It took over a year to turn the corner, but Reagan was re-elected in an unprecedented landslide in'84, not something that could have happened without the turnaround from the Carter hopelessness.