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@divegeester
It's completely irrelevant.
There will never be a left-of-centre English PM again, as there hasn't been since the 1980s.
-Removed-Labours best leader will depend on the political environment created by BoJo over the next few years. If he keeps his promises about governing for the whole of the country and not just the shires and he can avoid the disillusionment of the urban poor in the north and west of England, and Wales in general then labours only option will be a right leaning “moderate” candidate that in no way scares the horses. But I think anyone associated with the Corbynite world view would give Boris a lot of leeway in terms of fulfilling those promises or not.
However the idea that something as seismic as Brexit is going to fade into the shadows anytime soon is a hard core Brexiteer fantasy.
-Removed-In fact the important decisions are yet to be made, the Brexit deal reached with the previous Johnson administration was just a framework for negotiations to begin and settled some urgent issues. There is no trade deal with the EU yet that would apply to the post-transition situation. If Johnson wants to have a deal as quickly as he says he wants it, he's going to have to fold on a lot of issues.
Politically, however, it would be best for Labour to let the issue rest for now and don't try to campaign on renegotiating whatever compromise is reached with the EU. In any case Brexit will be bad for ordinary Britons, but the consequences are too abstract and not far-reaching enough for the proletarians to realize they're just throwing away their own money for no purpose.
As much of a tosser he is, in the two-party system of the U.K. Labour needs someone like Blair, a down-to-Earth conservative who can win back uneducated working-class voters.
-Removed-Too soon to say, I was hoping Corbyn would go for a drawn out death scene so us new members have a chance to get the sort of numbers that could challenge the current leadership election caucus and a better idea of Boris’s domestic and trade policies as they are in reality rather than what Boris claims they will be.
Jesse Phillips made a lot of sense on the Marr show when she prioritised child poverty and homelessness over free broadband and nationalising anything that you couldn’t improve dramatically under public ownership.
Brexit is happening, that’s a fact but the question of whether it was a mistake will always be there and anyone who has ruled out a referendum on rejoining the EU in the future is seriously delusional, it will depend on how close we stay to the single market and how much damage our separation does to our economy and public services.