From the link below:
Sergey Lavrov said that Ukraine could still have Nazi elements even if some figures, including the country’s president, were Jewish.
“So when they say ‘How can Nazification exist if we’re Jewish?’ In my opinion, Hitler also had Jewish origins, so it doesn’t mean absolutely anything.
https://apnews.com/article/russia-ukraine-middle-east-israel-race-and-ethnicity-racial-injustice-447cc9a0e858d22db9bd9cd20d6421b2
Hitler: Jewish or not Jewish?
@ThatsNotMyGum
Even though it is repeating here and now with first the end of Roe V Wade followed by the loss of women in the workforce because they are forced to have children forcing them to quit work, which is what right wingers want, a WIN over women whom they perceive as getting too uppity and getting into upper positions formerly ONLY run by men so this is at its core an attack by right wingers on the rights of women, if this disgusting draft goes through SCOTUS, a woman can't have an abortion even if it is risking her life to have a child and of course forget getting an abortion from the result of rape or incest, who give a CRAP if incest results in a person with genetic problems BY GOD WE STOPPED THAT ABORTION and drop that women like she was a hot poker.
The US is going to be fundamentally different now that the right wingers have succeeded in taking over SCOTUS, and that bit about the perception of SCOTUS as nothing but a partisan law mill will be proven true.
This is not a country I personally will want to live in when the shyte hits the fan.
And of course they would say, be my guest, you want to move to Mexico?
Or some such inanity.
When we lose our freedoms, I wonder what the right wingers will say THEN?
@sonhouse saidGood rant, wrong thread… 🤣
@ThatsNotMyGum
Even though it is repeating here and now with first the end of Roe V Wade followed by the loss of women in the workforce because they are forced to have children forcing them to quit work, which is what right wingers want, a WIN over women whom they perceive as getting too uppity and getting into upper positions formerly ONLY run by men so this is at its core ...[text shortened]...
Or some such inanity.
When we lose our freedoms, I wonder what the right wingers will say THEN?
@earl-of-trumps saidTo be fair the self proclaimed defenders of Jewish people are defending the neo nazis in Ukraine. Isn't the ADL pushing buttons by defending neo nazis?
Why Lavrov wants to push Jewish buttons at this time is beyond me. I read about it in the
Jerusalem Post and Israelis are absolutely apoplectic
https://www.lewrockwell.com/political-theatre/adl-defends-ukraines-neo-nazis-they-dont-attack-jews-or-jewish-institutions/
It seems to me that Jews are pushing their own buttons. The ADL is saying these nazis are good. The ultimate in hypocrisy.
@metal-brain saidOh, please. That myth has been debunked decades ago. Only Stalinists like Putin, Lavrov and you still believe it has any credibility.
Sergey Lavrov said that Ukraine could still have Nazi elements even if some figures, including the country’s president, were Jewish.
“So when they say ‘How can Nazification exist if we’re Jewish?’ In my opinion, Hitler also had Jewish origins, so it doesn’t mean absolutely anything.
@shallow-blue saidI thought so too, but an internet website saying it has been debunked isn't really evidence, is it? Maybe it is true and Jews are self loathing people.
Oh, please. That myth has been debunked decades ago. Only Stalinists like Putin, Lavrov and you still believe it has any credibility.
@metal-brain saidI suppose we have to prove you wrong ?
I thought so too, but an internet website saying it has been debunked isn't really evidence, is it? Maybe it is true and Jews are self loathing people.
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@metal-brain saidThat's the problem with your worldview, MB.
I thought so too, but an internet website saying it has been debunked isn't really evidence, is it? Maybe it is true and Jews are self loathing people.
Rather than focusing on that it may be true because it hasn't been "debunked" by enough evidence, maybe you should assume that this wild nonsensical rumor is untrue until proven true.
@sh76 said"Rather than focusing on that it may be true because it hasn't been "debunked" by enough evidence, maybe you should assume that this wild nonsensical rumor is untrue until proven true"
That's the problem with your worldview, MB.
Rather than focusing on that it may be true because it hasn't been "debunked" by enough evidence, maybe you should assume that this wild nonsensical rumor is untrue until proven true.
That is exactly what I did until Lavrov said differently. Havn't you been paying enough attention to this forum?
All I am asking is if he is wrong what is the proof that he is wrong? Dude, even Shav disagrees with you which kind of blows my mind. To be honest, I do not know if Shav is wrong. Now that I think about it, none of those websites that supposedly debunked it were anything I have heard of before.
What is your source of information? Being Jewish doesn't exactly make your opinion unbiased.
@metal-brain saidNonsense. You jumped on Putin's poodle's assertion because it fits your pre-existing presumption that Ukraine is ruled by Nazis and Russia is "liberating" it.
"Rather than focusing on that it may be true because it hasn't been "debunked" by enough evidence, maybe you should assume that this wild nonsensical rumor is untrue until proven true"
That is exactly what I did until Lavrov said differently.
@metal-brain saidHitler was a Catholic
From the link below:
Sergey Lavrov said that Ukraine could still have Nazi elements even if some figures, including the country’s president, were Jewish.
“So when they say ‘How can Nazification exist if we’re Jewish?’ In my opinion, Hitler also had Jewish origins, so it doesn’t mean absolutely anything.
https://apnews.com/article/russia-ukraine-middle-east-isra ...[text shortened]... ace-and-ethnicity-racial-injustice-447cc9a0e858d22db9bd9cd20d6421b2
Hitler: Jewish or not Jewish?
@metal-brain saidRed herring. Next thread please.
From the link below:
Sergey Lavrov said that Ukraine could still have Nazi elements even if some figures, including the country’s president, were Jewish.
“So when they say ‘How can Nazification exist if we’re Jewish?’ In my opinion, Hitler also had Jewish origins, so it doesn’t mean absolutely anything.
https://apnews.com/article/russia-ukraine-middle-east-isra ...[text shortened]... ace-and-ethnicity-racial-injustice-447cc9a0e858d22db9bd9cd20d6421b2
Hitler: Jewish or not Jewish?