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    24 Nov '16 22:412 edits
    Bill Clinton once said that "getting Democrats to agree on a course of action was like herding cats". That was the story of the election of 2016. Millions of registered Democrats didn't bother to vote on election day. Now Donald Trump is the President elect, and the Democrats are unhappy. It seems the Democrats will have to learn (once again) you might not like everything in your candidate, but if you don't vote, you'll like the other choice even less. Democrats, stop blaming Trump, the electoral college, the RNC, etc. for this loss, this is YOUR fault. You folks had the votes to win, but millions of Democrats didn't bother to do so. Now quit sniveling and live with the consequences of your own inaction! 😲


    http://www.politicususa.com/2016/11/09/graph-shows-hillary-clinton-lost-democrats-vote.html

    https://news.vice.com/story/hillary-clinton-lost-because-white-democrats-in-key-states-didnt-bother-to-vote

    http://fivethirtyeight.com/features/voter-turnout-fell-especially-in-states-that-clinton-won/
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    24 Nov '16 23:15
    Originally posted by mchill
    Bill Clinton once said that "getting Democrats to agree on a course of action was like herding cats". That was the story of the election of 2016. Millions of registered Democrats didn't bother to vote on election day. Now Donald Trump is the President elect, and the Democrats are unhappy. It seems the Democrats will have to learn (once again) you might not li ...[text shortened]...

    http://fivethirtyeight.com/features/voter-turnout-fell-especially-in-states-that-clinton-won/
    They nominated a flawed and tired candidate. The Repubs didn't do much better, but he resonated with a lot of people.
    He tapped into the anger Americans had with government, starting with obamacare being shoved down their throat.
    Had the Dems nominated a Bernie Sanders type, they might have won.
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    24 Nov '16 23:501 edit
    Originally posted by mchill
    Bill Clinton once said that "getting Democrats to agree on a course of action was like herding cats". That was the story of the election of 2016. Millions of registered Democrats didn't bother to vote on election day. Now Donald Trump is the President elect, and the Democrats are unhappy. It seems the Democrats will have to learn (once again) you might not li ...[text shortened]...

    http://fivethirtyeight.com/features/voter-turnout-fell-especially-in-states-that-clinton-won/
    Funny, well over 2 million more Democrats voted than republicans. Also funny is how you label democrats as you and your as if we are all one person who is responsible for the loss even tho we had 2 million+ more votes. The electoral college most likely will be done away with after this which is a good thing in my eyes. Time for a true democracy in the USA.
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    24 Nov '16 23:541 edit
    Originally posted by checkbaiter
    They nominated a flawed and tired candidate. The Repubs didn't do much better, but he resonated with a lot of people.
    He tapped into the anger Americans had with government, starting with obamacare being shoved down their throat.
    Had the Dems nominated a Bernie Sanders type, they might have won.
    Who's they? I voted for Bernie and donated to his campaign. The only thing that resonated with Retards was the hatred,false witness, and lies that the Dump preached. To tell you the truth, it really is starting to look like Retards have been suckered.
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    25 Nov '16 01:27
    Originally posted by KingDavid403
    Who's they? I voted for Bernie and donated to his campaign. The only thing that resonated with Retards was the hatred,false witness, and lies that the Dump preached. To tell you the truth, it really is starting to look like Retards have been suckered.
    I voted trump. If Bernie had won the nomination, I would still have voted trump, Bernie is a nut job. He is as Socialist as you can get.
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    25 Nov '16 02:382 edits
    Originally posted by checkbaiter
    I voted trump. If Bernie had won the nomination, I would still have voted trump, Bernie is a nut job. He is as Socialist as you can get.
    Who cares who you voted for. You do not even know what a socialist is. All countries are socialist to some degree. They have to be to survive. If you voted for the Dump and the platform he presented. Then you are not a Christian plain and simple. The only wack jobs around are the Dump and those who voted for him.
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    25 Nov '16 02:392 edits
    Originally posted by mchill
    Bill Clinton once said that "getting Democrats to agree on a course of action was like herding cats". That was the story of the election of 2016. Millions of registered Democrats didn't bother to vote on election day. Now Donald Trump is the President elect, and the Democrats are unhappy. It seems the Democrats will have to learn (once again) you might not li ...[text shortened]...

    http://fivethirtyeight.com/features/voter-turnout-fell-especially-in-states-that-clinton-won/
    Hey, moron.

    I've left a few posts in this forum about this already. Kris Kobach and his Interstate Crosscheck program made a list of 7.2 million likely Democrat voters who had "similar names" in several states, claiming they should all be taken off the voter rolls because they're "clearly" the same person voting many times in many states (regardless of these voters having different middle names, and of course different SSNs ). They approached the Republican governments in 24 states, and with the assistance of the Republican election officials, took these names off the voter rolls, and therefore denied these Democrat voters their Constitutionally-granted right to vote.

    "Millions of registered Democrats didn't bother to vote on election day."
    It wasn't that they "didn't bother to vote", it's that they were denied their right to vote by being stripped off the rolls.

    "It seems the Democrats will have to learn (once again) you might not like everything in your candidate, but if you don't vote, you'll like the other choice even less."
    It's not like these voters were given a choice.

    "Democrats, stop blaming Trump, the electoral college, the RNC, etc. for this loss, this is YOUR fault."
    No. The fault lies with Kris Kobach and his Interstate Crosscheck program, and the many Republican state election officials who went along with his outrageous plan to strip these Democrats from the rolls. Like I said in another thread, a good first step in investigating this would be to subpoena the head Election Official in those states who used the Interstate Crosscheck system.

    "You folks had the votes to win, but millions of Democrats didn't bother to do so. Now quit sniveling and live with the consequences of your own inaction!"
    It's one thing to be out-played by Kris Kobach and his pals, but it's insult added to injury to claim that these Democrats did not vote because they "didn't bother to do so".

    7.2 million likely Democrat voters. It had to be so many because had these voters actually gotten to exercise their Constitutional right to vote, Hillary would have won, and in a landslide. This is where the expected landslide disappeared to. The Republicans just refused to allow these registered voters, these American citizens, their right to vote.

    And coming down on these disenfranchised voters for not voting, and not on the sick bastards who made sure they didn't vote, is a case of ignorantly putting the cart before the horse.
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    25 Nov '16 02:44
    Originally posted by checkbaiter
    I voted trump. If Bernie had won the nomination, I would still have voted trump, Bernie is a nut job. He is as Socialist as you can get.
    And this is why these people saying "If Bernie was the nominee, the Dems would've won!" are idiots.
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    25 Nov '16 03:13
    Where are these people who were not allowed to vote. You'd think there would be lawsuits. You'd think there would be news stories.

    I am not seeing either.
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    25 Nov '16 03:13
    Originally posted by KingDavid403
    Who cares who you voted for. You do not even know what a socialist is. All countries are socialist to some degree. They have to be to survive. If you voted for the Dump and the platform he presented. Then you are not a Christian plain and simple. The only wack jobs around are the Dump and those who voted for him.
    All I can say is.... Wow!
    Nothing like enjoying the peace of God
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    25 Nov '16 03:15
    Originally posted by Eladar
    Where are these people who were not allowed to vote. You'd think there would be lawsuits. You'd think there would be news stories.

    I am not seeing either.
    I think some of those dead Democrats were stripped. But McAullif let 60,000 inmates vote. Cool huh?
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    25 Nov '16 03:201 edit
    Originally posted by Suzianne
    Hey, moron.

    I've left a few posts in this forum about this already. Kris Kobach and his Interstate Crosscheck program made a list of 7.2 million likely Democrat voters who had "similar names" in several states, claiming they should all be taken off the voter rolls because they're "clearly" the same person voting many times in many states (regardless of ...[text shortened]... ho made sure they didn't vote, is a case of ignorantly putting the cart before the horse.
    Hey Suzianne.

    I don't resort to name calling, and would appreciate if you would do the same. I respectfully disagree with your assessment of the situation. Despite some efforts to suppress votes, the bulk of the blame lies with many who simply stayed home. Most of these folks found a way to get to the polls to vote for Obama, but would not back Hillary.

    I am not a Trump supporter trying the rub this win in the face of Democrats. I voted for Hillary Clinton. It's too bad so many other registered Democrats did not.
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    25 Nov '16 04:111 edit
    Originally posted by checkbaiter
    All I can say is.... Wow!
    Nothing like enjoying the peace of God
    I have much peace in God. How about you? If you cannot see the hypocrisy in calling yourself a Christian and then voting for the Dump, then you are beyond hope.
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    25 Nov '16 04:13
    Originally posted by mchill
    Hey Suzianne.

    I don't resort to name calling, and would appreciate if you would do the same. I respectfully disagree with your assessment of the situation. Despite some efforts to suppress votes, the bulk of the blame lies with many who simply stayed home. Most of these folks found a way to get to the polls to vote for Obama, but would not back Hillary.
    ...[text shortened]... Democrats. I voted for Hillary Clinton. It's too bad so many other registered Democrats did not.
    I agree. And these are so called "followers of Christ ". But you would never know it.
    I respect your vote, many of my friends voted for her, I just think it was a poor choice.🙂
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    25 Nov '16 04:15
    Originally posted by KingDavid403
    I have much peace in God. How about you?
    Then why can't you be civil? There is no need for name calling.
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