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Or, you can lead a horse to water...

http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2011/aug/15/liberalism-political-economic-different-ideologies?INTCMP=SRCH

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Originally posted by DrKF
Or, you can lead a horse to water...

http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2011/aug/15/liberalism-political-economic-different-ideologies?INTCMP=SRCH
I remember when "liberal" became a bad word in the US in the 80s. There was that 1988 SNL skit "The Liberal" with Matthew Modine as a left-leaning fugitive hiding his views. He is the last liberal in America trying to escape to Amsterdam. "He's a liberal, run liberal run"

I like JFK's discussion.

http://www.liberalparty.org/JFKLPAcceptance.html

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Originally posted by moon1969
I remember when "liberal" became a bad word in the US in the 80s. I like JFK's discussion.

http://www.liberalparty.org/JFKLPAcceptance.html
And now that they have taken over we are all so much happier!!

In fact, if it were not for the Tea Party sabotaging Obama's every move he would be a president that could have had some success.

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Originally posted by whodey
And now that they have taken over we are all so much happier!!

In fact, if it were not for the Tea Party sabotaging Obama's every move he would be a president that could have had some success.
I don't know if I would call Obama a liberal in a true sense. I guess it depends on definition. And admittedly, Obama can lean left sometimes. But Obama actually came across as a right-wing hack in some of budget negotiations, though maybe that is a little strong and he was just being realistic. But presidents like Obama and Clinton do not seem to be true liberals to me.

One nuance is that since Reagan, labeling and perception of the political spectrum has been shifted, and defintitions and labels are now different. For example, a person who moderately leans left is labeled as a socialist. Or a person who leans right or even significantly right is labeled as middle-of-the road.