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the libyan socialist state is unraveling. after machgunning the people in the streets they are still losing. world socialists and communists may hold a gun to the head of ordinary people for a while but in the end they are forced to climb the dustbin of history with their socialist slogans and cough into the ashes.
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Originally posted by reinfeldWell, socialist or not, Its saddening to see such an important ally being deposed after years of stability and (by their standards) benevolent governance.
the libyan socialist state is unraveling. after machgunning the people in the streets they are still losing. world socialists and communists may hold a gun to the head of ordinary people for a while but in the end they are forced to climb the dustbin of history with their socialist slogans and cough into the ashes.
Certainly of all autocrats in the region Gaddafi was the most flamboyant and tender-hearted of all, a (soon to be) regrettable loss in my opinion.
21 Feb 11
Originally posted by reinfeldDoesn't sound too "socialist" or "communist":
the libyan socialist state is unraveling. after machgunning the people in the streets they are still losing. world socialists and communists may hold a gun to the head of ordinary people for a while but in the end they are forced to climb the dustbin of history with their socialist slogans and cough into the ashes.
Libya aims to want to put « 100 percent of the economy under the control of private investors« , Reuters quoted government official Abdelkarim Mgeg as saying on Thursday (April 1st). Speaking on the sidelines of the Libya Business and Investment Summit in Tripoli, the Privatisation and Investment Board strategic projects’ chief said that he expects fully half of Libya’s economy to « be in the hands of the private sector within the next 10 years« . After decades of international isolation, Libyan leader Muammar Gaddafi has begun tentative liberalisation of some parts of the economy and foreign investors are beginning to return.
The business environment remains unpredictable and decision making can be painfully slow but Libyan officials say that in the past 10 years they have privatised 110 state-owned companies – a third of the total – and they want to go further. Libya’s privatisation policy is not driven by a need for capital – it sits on a vast mountain of oil money. Instead, officials have said they want to attract private sector expertise to create jobs and reduce the country’s dependence on oil and gas.It remains a challenging place for investors, especially because government rules can change without warning. For several weeks, Tripoli stopped issuing visas to most European citizens over a dispute with Switzerland.
Swiss businessman Max Goeldi, who ran Libyan operations for engineering firm ABB, is serving a four-month prison sentence in Tripoli on charges that Switzerland says are linked to a diplomatic row over a Swiss entry ban on scores of Libyan officials, including Gaddafi and his family. Libya denies any connection.
Analysts say Libya’s lingering suspicion of foreign interference, ponderous bureaucracy and opaque legal system mean it will struggle to match the rapid growth in industry and services that helped Gulf states diversify away from oil. But Libyan officials say their country has competitive advantages, including security, plentiful credit, cheap energy and proximity to Europe.
Privatisation officials have said Libya had revamped its economic laws to end privileges for local investors over foreigners. »The new legalisation puts foreigners on an equal footing with local investors, » said Hashem Azwai, head of the investment department at the Privatisation and Investment Board.
http://sdapem.wordpress.com/2010/04/02/reuters-libya-to-privatise-half-of-economy-in-a-decade/
21 Feb 11
Originally posted by no1marauderAPRIL FOOLS
Doesn't sound too "socialist" or "communist":
[b]Libya aims to want to put « 100 percent of the economy under the control of private investors« , Reuters quoted government official Abdelkarim Mgeg as saying on Thursday (April 1st). Speaking on the sidelines of the Libya Business and Investment Summit in Tripoli, the Privatisation an ...[text shortened]... p://sdapem.wordpress.com/2010/04/02/reuters-libya-to-privatise-half-of-economy-in-a-decade/[/b]
21 Feb 11
Originally posted by AThousandYoungNot according to WikiLeaks:
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2. (SBU) The new head of the Libyan Privatization and Investment Board, Jamal al-Lamushie, told the Ambassador (accompanied by econoff) during a February 10 meeting that U.S. companies are welcome in Libya, and to that end, pledged to help arrange meetings for the upcoming U.S. Trade Mission. In al-Lamushie"s view, most Libyans are pro-U.S., but, he believes some Americans have negative views of Libya due to the media. He said "we consider you as a friend, and we are all part of one team, to make the trade mission a success." Al-Lamushie, who replaced Mahamud al-Ftise as head of Privatization on December 28, explained that he will also retain his other role, as General Secretary of the General Board of Fairs. (Note: Dr. al-Ftise"s new role, if any, is still unclear. According to the Tripoli rumor mill, he is now in charge of the government-owned Steel Factory in Misurata.) Al-Lamushie was accompanied by a new member of his staff, Dr. Abdelkarim Mgeg.
PRIVATIZATION AND INVESTMENT BOARD WELCOMES U.S. COMPANIES
3. (C) Al-Lamushie noted that Libya was "speeding up" the process of privatization, in which nearly 20 state-owned enterprises will be either liquidated, sold to employees, or sold to investors. He said foreign investors are now able to partner with Libyan companies, either from the private or public sectors, in joint ventures at up to 60 percent ownership. He thought the remaining larger projects could be of interest to foreign investors, such as the petrochemical plant in Abe Kamash near Qe Tunisian border, the truck factory in Tajura, the Steel Factory in Misurata, and several oil services companies. He noted that 110 companies had been privatized (as reported in ref A) and that almost all were doing well, but admitted that 10-15 were "not doing soQell" and would probably not be of interest to investors.
http://91.214.23.156/cablegate/wire.php?id=10TRIPOLI136&search=
21 Feb 11
Originally posted by reinfeldI wouldn't be at all surprised if a new government was far more "socialist" than Qaddafi ever was.
that is only after 40 years of socialism they failed...just like all reds and pinks eventually fail since their hands get old and cannot hold the gun to the heads of the ordinary man for two many decades.
22 Feb 11
Originally posted by generalissimoSure we'll just ignore taking a passenger plane down and other support of terrorism. Reagan seemed to have tamed him but I'll be happy to see the sob go down.
Well, socialist or not, Its saddening to see such an important ally being deposed after years of stability and (by their standards) benevolent governance.
Certainly of all autocrats in the region Gaddafi was the most flamboyant and tender-hearted of all, a (soon to be) regrettable loss in my opinion.
22 Feb 11
Originally posted by badmoonTo simply cite an incident of terrorism in an attempt at tarnishing Gaddafi's image is, in my opinion, to look at history from solely an American standpoint, we shouldn't be selective at what parts of history we choose to remember, Gaddafi acted in retaliation to attacks from the US. Nevertheless, if Gaddafi is to leave the leadership of Libya surely you must wonder whether the new leadership will be as cooperative, no?
Sure we'll just ignore taking a passenger plane down and other support of terrorism. Reagan seemed to have tamed him but I'll be happy to see the sob go down.
23 Feb 11
Originally posted by generalissimoNon-cooperation from elected representatives of the people is preferable to cooperation from a tyrant IMO.
To simply cite an incident of terrorism in an attempt at tarnishing Gaddafi's image is, in my opinion, to look at history from solely an American standpoint, we shouldn't be selective at what parts of history we choose to remember, Gaddafi acted in retaliation to attacks from the US. Nevertheless, if Gaddafi is to leave the leadership of Libya surely you must wonder whether the new leadership will be as cooperative, no?