Lesson #3: Flood the Zone with S**t π
Propaganda is a key element of every Nazi regime. You will be told not to believe what you see. A Nazi salute is not a Nazi salute. And there will no rationale - they will just ridicule and say you are so DUMB for believing it was a Nazi salute! Nazi salute? You are so DUMB and PROGRAMMED! I can’t even TELL you how dumb you are. When you saw the evidence with your own eyes.
Part of the propaganda is the role of the entourage. The entourage exists to say things that make the dictator seem more moderate. MTG, Hoe-bert, Gym Jordan, etc will always say things that are MORE extreme than what ‘Dear Leader’ says. This is planned and makes the pretender seem more rational by comparison.
It is classic 'flood the zone' sh** that the main attack on Biden was that he was too old (he was not) - only to offer up someone who mindlessly repeats himself, has the attention span of a rabbit, and who cannot keep a clear train of thought!
Truth gives way to lies. Lies become the norm. This is ‘double-think’ which George Orwell made famous in his book 1984 which was an allegory of 20th century authoritarian regimes. '2+2=5' and they keep repeating it until you give way.
There was no insurrection. Even though you saw it. There is a crimewave. Even though you can't see it.
The American government has been taken over by double-thinkers. π
@Sleepyguy saidJust love me some low-hangin' fruit - the lower the better! π
@spruce112358
Low hanging fruit status = grabbed.
@spruce112358
Lesson #4
Use the military against civilians.
quote:
Amna Nawaz (interviewer):
Besides an order sending 1,500 active-duty troops to the Mexican border, late today, the Defense Department announced it had been tasked with supporting the Department of Homeland Security's deportation flights and assisting in the construction of temporary and permanent physical barriers along the border.
For a perspective on all of this, we turn now to retired Rear Admiral James McPherson. He served as undersecretary of the Army and as the Army's general counsel during the first Trump administration. He also had a 25-year career in the Navy, serving as its top lawyer in uniform.
Could U.S. military troops be asked to arrest migrants at the border to try to stop them from crossing? And would that be appropriate?
Rear Adm. James McPherson (RET).: Well, to try to stop them from crossing, the answer is yes.... If that in fact is done and active-duty troops are sent to the border, they will be sent to the border not to enforce immigration laws, but to repel an invasion, which is very different. They won't be involved in a law enforcement role, but a military role of, again, repelling that…
Amna Nawaz:
Admiral, if I may, you're using this word invasion, which we have heard the President use repeatedly. I should point out that border numbers have actually been coming down dramatically over the last several months, though they did reach record highs in the previous administration.
Do you view what's happening at the southern border as an invasion?
Rear Adm. James McPherson (RET).: The facts simply don't support that ...
Amna Nawaz:
So we have — we should point out, U.S. forces overseas, for example, in Iraq and Afghanistan were asked to provide security for cities and villages.
Why can't U.S. military forces do similar kind of missions along the U.S. border?
Rear Adm. James McPherson (RET).: Because when they were in Iraq and Afghanistan, they were opposing an armed force. They were engaged in armed encounters. They were engaged in traditionally the mission of our military, and that is to fight our armed — fight our wars.
We don't have a war going on at the southern border. We have a law enforcement crisis perhaps. But that's not an invasion.
Amna Nawaz:
One of the things my colleague Nick Schifrin reported today was, this deployment increases the number of troops at the border by 60 percent to some 4,000. One senior official said the number could go as high as 10,000. What's your reaction to that?
Rear Adm. James McPherson (RET).: Again there are some — the current deployment is in support of border protection. I would say that border protection may use them in extended manner.
But under the current orders under the current law, they can only be used in that support role. They can't be used to enforce immigration law.
Amna Nawaz:
But 10,000 U.S. troops at the border, what does that say to you about the use of active-duty military troops?
Rear Adm. James McPherson (RET).: Well, it says that they're being ill-used, if you will, that it's detracting from their mission to protect our country, is detracting from their operational tempo, and is detracting from their readiness.
I think it does a disservice to our military to send them to the border to try and engage in apprehending illegal aliens, if you will.
Amna Nawaz:
Finally, Admiral, we know that the president has directed the incoming secretary of defense and incoming homeland security chief to report back within 90 days if they think that the Insurrection Act should be invoked.
That's an 1807 law that would allow U.S. troops to be used in civilian law enforcement on U.S. soil. What's your reaction to that?
Rear Adm. James McPherson (RET).: That's a dangerous route we should not be taking.
These current executable orders only speak to the southern border. They don't speak to using the military in the interior of the United States. The Insurrection Act would give the president the authority to do just that, to use our armed forces in Chicago, in Detroit, in Atlanta. I think that's dangerous.
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https://www.pbs.org/newshour/show/pentagon-will-send-troops-to-southern-border-to-carry-out-trumps-immigration-crackdown
Be alert, people; as soon as Trump authorises military force to be used against civilians, for any excuse whatever, you must assume he will use military force to stay in power beyond his 'mandate.'
@moonbus saidTrue, it is not an invasion as viewed by Military Officers schooled in warfare, having learned what true invasion is. You know, guns and helmets and such. So, not an invasion in that sense.
@spruce112358
Lesson #4
Use the military against civilians.
quote:
Amna Nawaz (interviewer):
Besides an order sending 1,500 active-duty troops to the Mexican border, late today, the Defense Department announced it had been tasked with supporting the Department of Homeland Security's deportation flights and assisting in the construction of temporary and permanent ...[text shortened]... cuse whatever,[/i] you must assume he will use military force to stay in power beyond his 'mandate.'
Domestically? THat is a different situation. If I have a lot of, let's say 'useful items' and a lot of 'produce' in my back yard, and also I keep a lot of medicine in a cabinet in my garage, it is mine and I naturally do not want someone to cross my property line and get it, use it, overwhelm it, steal it, and beat up my sons in the process.
Do you not think it logical that their doing so, getting my medicines and all the other stuff of mine and converting it to their own use, can be considered a clear invasion from MY point of view....not a war general's point of view?
No one including you will answer this with a sensible answer.
@moonbus said"https://www.pbs.org/newshour/show/pentagon-will-send-troops-to-southern-border-to-carry-out-trumps-immigration-crackdown
@spruce112358
Lesson #4
Use the military against civilians.
quote:
Amna Nawaz (interviewer):
Besides an order sending 1,500 active-duty troops to the Mexican border, late today, the Defense Department announced it had been tasked with supporting the Department of Homeland Security's deportation flights and assisting in the construction of temporary and permanent ...[text shortened]... cuse whatever,[/i] you must assume he will use military force to stay in power beyond his 'mandate.'
Be alert, people; as soon as Trump authorises military force to be used against civilians, for any excuse whatever, you must assume he will use military force to stay in power beyond his 'mandate.''
are you aware there are already 2500 troops at the border sent by biden? didnt think so
@AverageJoe1 saidThis is called 'double-think'. π
True, it is not an invasion as viewed by Military Officers schooled in warfare, having learned what true invasion is. You know, guns and helmets and such. So, not an invasion in that sense.
Domestically? THat is a different situation. If I have a lot of, let's say 'useful items' and a lot of 'produce' in my back yard, and also I keep a lot of medicine in a cabinet in ...[text shortened]... .not a war general's point of view?
No one including you will answer this with a sensible answer.
A woman with a child in her arms, wading across a river is a refugee allowed UNDER US LAW to apply for asylum - she might or might not be accepted.
But the Nazi's say no. Ignore US laws. She is an 'invader.' Now Trump has ordered the military to the border to ... what? Shoot her? Even the officers are disgusted. 'I'm not going to machine gun Venezuelan women and children in the middle of the Rio Grande,' one probably said.
You are doing 'double think' very well, NaziJoe. π
@Mott-The-Hoople saidWell aware. π
"https://www.pbs.org/newshour/show/pentagon-will-send-troops-to-southern-border-to-carry-out-trumps-immigration-crackdown
Be alert, people; as soon as Trump authorises military force to be used against civilians, for any excuse whatever, you must assume he will use military force to stay in power beyond his 'mandate.''
are you aware there are already 2500 troops at the border sent by biden? didnt think so
"The new troops will join 2,500 Army Reserve and National Guard soldiers whom the Biden administration had already called to active duty to support federal law enforcement officials. Their missions have included detection and monitoring, data entry, training, transportation and maintenance.
A senior military official, speaking to reporters at a briefing Wednesday afternoon, said the 4,000 troops will now carry out some of the same tasks as before but also conduct some new missions, such as helping build the border barriers.
...
The military official did not rule out whether the troops would be armed — as some have been in the past on these kinds of missions — and said that determination would be made by ground commanders depending on the threat.
...
“This is just the beginning,” Mr. Salesses said in his statement. “In short order, the department will develop and execute additional missions in cooperation” with several and federal agencies.
...
Mr. Trump on Monday signed an executive order that gave the military an explicit role in immigration enforcement. It also directed the Defense Department to come up with a plan “to seal the borders and maintain the sovereignty, territorial integrity and security of the United States by repelling forms of invasion.”
The directive is likely to clash with the Posse Comitatus Act, an 1878 law that forbids the use of armed forces for law enforcement purposes on U.S. soil unless Congress or the Constitution expressly authorizes it.
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Bottom line? The mission is changing. We don't know what they will do, and we don't expect transparency. Keeping the public in the dark is absolutely critical under the Nazi regime.
@spruce112358 saidyou distort reality
This is called 'double-think'. π
A woman with a child in her arms, wading across a river is a refugee allowed UNDER US LAW to apply for asylum - she might or might not be accepted.
But the Nazi's say no. Ignore US laws. She is an 'invader.' Now Trump has ordered the military to the border to ... what? Shoot her? Even the officers are disgusted. 'I'm not going to m ...[text shortened]... middle of the Rio Grande,' one probably said.
You are doing 'double think' very well, NaziJoe. π
Asylum seekers qualifications will be checked at the border. Unlike with biden, checking some marks on a telephone app and your preapproved without any verification.
Everyone knows what democrats are doing, that includes you. Your willingness to further their propaganda means you are a POS just like them.
@Sleepyguy saidWhile the right lets it rot on the vine.
@spruce112358
Low hanging fruit status = grabbed.
@spruce112358 saidDomestically, she is an invader, as I explained above, and you cannot doubt that. Ahh, but you do, as it is not convenient.
This is called 'double-think'. π
A woman with a child in her arms, wading across a river is a refugee allowed UNDER US LAW to apply for asylum - she might or might not be accepted.
But the Nazi's say no. Ignore US laws. She is an 'invader.' Now Trump has ordered the military to the border to ... what? Shoot her? Even the officers are disgusted. 'I'm not going to m ...[text shortened]... middle of the Rio Grande,' one probably said.
You are doing 'double think' very well, NaziJoe. π
Anyway, she is an invader. The rest of your post, is innocuous fluff. But you and I agree with the officer who will not shoot a woman in the water....esp if she is carrying a baby. Let her get across, and then turn her around.
@moonbus saidUS Citizens WILL be among those deported.
@spruce112358
Lesson #4
Use the military against civilians.
quote:
Amna Nawaz (interviewer):
Besides an order sending 1,500 active-duty troops to the Mexican border, late today, the Defense Department announced it had been tasked with supporting the Department of Homeland Security's deportation flights and assisting in the construction of temporary and permanent ...[text shortened]... cuse whatever,[/i] you must assume he will use military force to stay in power beyond his 'mandate.'
You can take this to the bank.
Look at Tommy Tuberville who just the other day said that Bishop Budde should be put on the deportation list, despite being a US citizen born in NJ.
@AverageJoe1 saidJust stop it.
True, it is not an invasion as viewed by Military Officers schooled in warfare, having learned what true invasion is. You know, guns and helmets and such. So, not an invasion in that sense.
Domestically? THat is a different situation. If I have a lot of, let's say 'useful items' and a lot of 'produce' in my back yard, and also I keep a lot of medicine in a cabinet in ...[text shortened]... .not a war general's point of view?
No one including you will answer this with a sensible answer.
Your anal-ogies blow chunks.
@Mott-The-Hoople saidFor God's sake, stop lying.
you distort reality
Asylum seekers qualifications will be checked at the border. Unlike with biden, checking some marks on a telephone app and your preapproved without any verification.
Everyone knows what democrats are doing, that includes you. Your willingness to further their propaganda means you are a POS just like them.
@AverageJoe1 saidWhy did you people refuse to fund the Border Patrol?
Domestically, she is an invader, as I explained above, and you cannot doubt that. Ahh, but you do, as it is not convenient.
Anyway, she is an invader. The rest of your post, is innocuous fluff. But you and I agree with the officer who will not shoot a woman in the water....esp if she is carrying a baby. Let her get across, and then turn her around.
You wanted more guns on the border.
And then you cry about people (Russians and N.Koreans, mostly) dying in Ukraine.
Stop treating vulnerable people like subhumans.