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@Suzianne saidThey choose to go cross the river. They Choose. Making themselves 'vulnerable' per chance? Everyone is presumed to know the law. Your comments after that are quite irrelevant about nazipeople and the revivalist preacher, the patrol , etc, which all have nothing to do with people who break our law at the border.
Why did you people refuse to fund the Border Patrol?
You wanted more guns on the border.
And then you cry about people (Russians and N.Koreans, mostly) dying in Ukraine.
Stop treating vulnerable people like subhumans.
If a person is too close to a group of pitbulls and rattlesnakes, I will go out of my way to be sure they stay safe. If they enter voluntarily. (there is that pesky choose element again) I guess I just watch? What else and why?
@AverageJoe1 saidImmigration vastly improves the nation receiving them.
They choose to go cross the river. They Choose. Making themselves 'vulnerable' per chance? Everyone is presumed to know the law. Your comments after that are quite irrelevant about nazipeople and the revivalist preacher, the patrol , etc, which all have nothing to do with people who break our law at the border.
If a person is too close to a group of pitbulls and ratt ...[text shortened]... ter voluntarily. (there is that pesky choose element again) I guess I just watch? What else and why?
Immigration fuels the mechanics of business. It has for hundreds of years.
You (as a businessman) have made obscene profits off the backs of immigrant workers.
Now you want to make it difficult because you can't stand the idea of white people becoming a minority. And you can't even admit it.
@Suzianne saidImmigrants do improve growth of a nation.
Immigration vastly improves the nation receiving them.
Immigration fuels the mechanics of business. It has for hundreds of years.
You (as a businessman) have made obscene profits off the backs of immigrant workers.
Now you want to make it difficult because you can't stand the idea of white people becoming a minority. And you can't even admit it.
Illegal immigrants are not the immigrants you speak of.
So, Legal Immigrants improve growth of a nation. Illegal immigrants, even with a baby in arms, need to go back around..... To become legal immigrants, and improve our growth. Whew.
Your comments often need fleshing out.
In an ever-changing, incomprehensible world the masses had reached the point where they would, at the same time, believe everything and nothing, think that everything was possible and that nothing was true. ... Mass propaganda discovered that its audience was ready at all times to believe the worst, no matter how absurd, and did not particularly object to being deceived because it held every statement to be a lie anyhow. The totalitarian mass leaders based their propaganda on the correct psychological assumption that, under such conditions, one could make people believe the most fantastic statements one day, and trust that if the next day they were given irrefutable proof of their falsehood, they would take refuge in cynicism; instead of deserting the leaders who had lied to them, they would protest that they had known all along that the statement was a lie and would admire the leaders for their superior tactical cleverness.
The Origins of Totalitarianism by Hannah Arendt, 1951
@Soothfast said"I have always thought it was a most valuable trait to recognize reality and not to pursue delusions. But when I now think over my life up to and including the years of imprisonment, there was no period in which I was free of delusory notions. .... The departure from reality, which was visibly spreading like a contagion, was no peculiarity of the National Socialist [Nazi] regime. But in normal circumstances people who turn their backs on reality are soon set straight by the mockery and criticism of those around them, which makes them aware that they have lost credibility. In the Third Reich there were no such correctives, especially for those who belonged to the upper stratum. On the contrary, every self-deception was multiplied as in a hall of distorting mirrors, becoming a repeatedly confirmed picture of a fantastical dream world which no longer bore any relationship to the grim world outside."In an ever-changing, incomprehensible world the masses had reached the point where they would, at the same time, believe everything and nothing, think that everything was possible and that nothing was true. ... Mass propaganda discovered that its audience was ready at all times to believe the worst, no matter how absurd, and did not particularly object to being decei ...[text shortened]... superior tactical cleverness.
The Origins of Totalitarianism by Hannah Arendt, 1951
[Albert Speer, Inside the Third Reich, 1970.]
@AverageJoe1 saidUS Law states that once a woman with a baby gets to "our side" of the Rio Grande, she must NOT be turned around. π
Immigrants do improve growth of a nation.
Illegal immigrants are not the immigrants you speak of.
So, Legal Immigrants improve growth of a nation. Illegal immigrants, even with a baby in arms, need to go back around..... To become legal immigrants, and improve our growth. Whew.
Your comments often need fleshing out.
The law states that if she claims asylum from persecution, her claim must be evaluated.
If you want to change the law, change it. Don't pretend you can just ignore the law, you criminal bastard! π
@spruce112358 saidOf course there are the thousands of pages on the confusing laws. I just have a joust with Marauder about the word domicile. Taken literally, one cannot be domicled and be hiding in a closet when the Immigration Squad comes around to arrest him., and at the SAME time, claiming to have the status of domiciled.
US Law states that once a woman with a baby gets to "our side" of the Rio Grande, she must NOT be turned around. π
The law states that if she claims asylum from persecution, her claim must be evaluated.
If you want to change the law, change it. Don't pretend you can just ignore the law, you criminal bastard! π
That is, you cannot be domiciled and hiding at the same time. Marauder said that you can, in so many (MANY!!) words. So , you have the law, yes, but I only like to jeehaw with you fellers with a common sense approach. Either that, or read him and Sonhouse (replete with links) until suppertime. Whew.
Common sense is much more fun, I wojld like to see what Marauder (and you) Think, instead of read something that you read. We are not in Class 101.
@AverageJoe1 saidCommon sense says that if there is objection to current law, different laws are brought up for debate in the House and Senate, preferably with bipartisan consensus. π
Of course there are the thousands of pages on the confusing laws. I just have a joust with Marauder about the word domicile. Taken literally, one cannot be domicled and be hiding in a closet when the Immigration Squad comes around to arrest him., and at the SAME time, claiming to have the status of domiciled.
That is, you cannot be domiciled and hiding at the same ...[text shortened]... ee what Marauder (and you) Think, instead of read something that you read. We are not in Class 101.
In Jan 2024, Trump ORDERED the House to abandon common sense, and they spinelessly complied.
So much for that approach.