30 Oct 12
President Romney?...President Obama?...who will control Congress? We lived through George W Bush and compassionate conservativism (of course the only people he had compassion on was rich people!), and Barack Obama and hope and change (the only thing that changed was the national debt...it went up!) So don't get too happy when your candidate wins, and don't get too steamed if he (or she) loses. Life will go on folks, and ultimately the only people that decide our fate, is us!🙂
30 Oct 12
Originally posted by bill718Very good point.
President Romney?...President Obama?...who will control Congress? We lived through George W Bush and compassionate conservativism (of course the only people he had compassion on was rich people!), and Barack Obama and hope and change (the only thing that changed was the national debt...it went up!) So don't get too happy when your candidate wins, and don't g ...[text shortened]... e) loses. Life will go on folks, and ultimately the only people that decide our fate, is us!🙂
30 Oct 12
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Originally posted by sh76???????
Probably not. A President has now power to overrule Roe v. Wade and even Obama has not allowed federal $$ to be spent on abortions.
Planned Parenthood and its affiliates, which are under investigation by a congressional subcommittee, received $487.4 million in grants, contracts and reimbursements from all government levels in 2009-10, the most recent year for which statistics are available. Planned Parenthood centers reported performing 329,445 abortions in 2010.
And coincidently....
Planned Parenthood, the nation's leading abortion provider, has spent $12 million on this year's presidential election through its political action committees.😲
That is more than it has ever spent in an election, and about half of it has gone for television ads in such battleground states as Florida, Ohio and Virginia, according to the Associated Press.
Cecile Richards, Planned Parenthood's president, said she has "taken a break from day job" to campaign for President Obama. In a video released by the Obama campaign on Oct. 19, Richards said, "Our daughters' and our granddaughters' future depends on" working to re-elect the president.
Richards' announcement came three days after the second presidential debate, when Obama mentioned Planned Parenthood five times, advocating continued federal funding for the controversial organization. In contrast with previous presidential campaigns, Obama has been outspoken in promoting abortion rights and Planned Parenthood.
http://townhall.com/news/religion/2012/10/24/planned_parenthood_spends_millions_for_obama
Originally posted by utherpendragonsh76 statement remains true and you remain with a serious reading impediment based on your swallowing hook, line and sinker everything any right wing blog says.
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[quote]Planned Parenthood and its affiliates, which are under investigation by a congressional subcommittee, received $487.4 million in grants, contracts and reimbursements from all government levels in 2009-10, the most recent year for which statistics are available. Planned Parenthood centers reported performing 329,445 abortions in 2010 p://townhall.com/news/religion/2012/10/24/planned_parenthood_spends_millions_for_obama
30 Oct 12
Originally posted by sh76I'm sure you meant to say a President has "NO" power to overrule Roe v. Wade but any retirement or death from the "liberal" wing in a Romney term would almost certainly lead to its overruling and then to some States (perhaps even a majority) re-criminalizing abortion. So that's a very real possibility.
Probably not. A President has now power to overrule Roe v. Wade and even Obama has not allowed federal $$ to be spent on abortions.
30 Oct 12
Originally posted by bill718A Romney term would be bad, but the country will survive (the economy is on the road to recovery and not even TP policies will completely screw it up). It will be a shame if tens of millions of people have the possibility of finally having affordable health insurance yanked away like Lucy pulling the football on Charlie Brown, but the working class shouldn't be surprised if a Republican sticks it to them.
President Romney?...President Obama?...who will control Congress? We lived through George W Bush and compassionate conservativism (of course the only people he had compassion on was rich people!), and Barack Obama and hope and change (the only thing that changed was the national debt...it went up!) So don't get too happy when your candidate wins, and don't g ...[text shortened]... e) loses. Life will go on folks, and ultimately the only people that decide our fate, is us!🙂
30 Oct 12
Originally posted by bill718You were not a fan of the massive entitlement for Drugs for Seniors? 😲
President Romney?...President Obama?...who will control Congress? We lived through George W Bush and compassionate conservativism (of course the only people he had compassion on was rich people!), and Barack Obama and hope and change (the only thing that changed was the national debt...it went up!) So don't get too happy when your candidate wins, and don't g ...[text shortened]... e) loses. Life will go on folks, and ultimately the only people that decide our fate, is us!🙂
30 Oct 12
Originally posted by no1marauderI have no reading imediment. You showed the other night that you do, when you could not figure out what "immediately" means.
sh76 statement remains true and you remain with a serious reading impediment based on your swallowing hook, line and sinker everything any right wing blog says.
sh76 stated, "Obama has not allowed federal $$ to be spent on abortions."
Thats b.s.
And he is a big poser than you are ,in my book.
30 Oct 12
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Originally posted by utherpendragonI was referring to the Hyde Amendment (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hyde_Amendment) which, as far as I know, is still enforced as federal law.
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[quote]Planned Parenthood and its affiliates, which are under investigation by a congressional subcommittee, received $487.4 million in grants, contracts and reimbursements from all government levels in 2009-10, the most recent year for which statistics are available. Planned Parenthood centers reported performing 329,445 abortions in 2010 p://townhall.com/news/religion/2012/10/24/planned_parenthood_spends_millions_for_obama
Moreover, though the Stupak–Pitts Amendment did not make it to the ACA, President Obama did sign an executive order re-affirming the principle of the Hyde Amendment.
According to wikipedia:
Executive Order 13535 is an executive order announced by President Barack Obama on March 21, 2010, and signed on March 24. It reinforces a commitment to preservation of the Hyde Amendment's policy restricting federal funds for abortion within the context of recent health care legislation. The order was signed after an agreement with pro-life Democratic Congressman Bart Stupak, who had said he and several other pro-life Democrats in the House of Representatives would not support the Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act unless the Bill's language prohibiting federal funding of abortions was strengthened.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Executive_Order_13535
Edit: As far as I can tell, PP only gets federal money for other non-abortion procedures. Yes, it could be argue that money is fungible and so giving them other $$ frees up $$ for abortion, but what makes you so sure this would change under a Romney administration anyway?
Surely you would not suggest that the federal government cannot give $$ to organizations that perform abortions? If that were the case, many hospitals would not be able to get Medicaid or Medicare dollars.
30 Oct 12
Originally posted by no1marauderNeither Roberts nor Alito joined the concurrence in Gonzales v. Carhart which would have overruled Roe. While Alito would probably vote to overturn Roe, in light or Roberts' 2012 term, I think it's highly questionable whether he would strike down Roe.
I'm sure you meant to say a President has "NO" power to overrule Roe v. Wade but any retirement or death from the "liberal" wing in a Romney term would almost certainly lead to its overruling and then to some States (perhaps even a majority) re-criminalizing abortion. So that's a very real possibility.
30 Oct 12
Originally posted by utherpendragonWhat's a poser? Is it a good thing?
I have no reading imediment. You showed the other night that you do, when you could not figure out what "immediately" means.
sh76 stated, "Obama has not allowed federal $$ to be spent on abortions."
Thats b.s.
And he is a big poser than you are ,in my book.
30 Oct 12
Originally posted by sh76So long as Judge Roberts is on the bench, liberals can sleep well at night.
Neither Roberts nor Alito joined the concurrence in Gonzales v. Carhart which would have overruled Roe. While Alito would probably vote to overturn Roe, in light or Roberts' 2012 term, I think it's highly questionable whether he would strike down Roe.
Thanks "W".
31 Oct 12
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Originally posted by sh76He owes the right wingers one. Chuck on another Scalia clone and Roe is toast.
Neither Roberts nor Alito joined the concurrence in Gonzales v. Carhart which would have overruled Roe. While Alito would probably vote to overturn Roe, in light or Roberts' 2012 term, I think it's highly questionable whether he would strike down Roe.
EDIT: He wrote this in 1990:
“We continue to believe that Roe v. Wade was wrongly decided and should be overruled,” .............. “The Supreme Court’s conclusion in Roe that there is a fundamental right to an abortion finds no support in the text, structure or history of the Constitution.“
http://www.ontheissues.org/Court/John_Roberts_Abortion.htm
Sure that was advocacy as a deputy solicitor general, but that was under Bush Sr. He's a mainstream Republican and mainstream Republicans have been pushing for Roe to be overturned for decades.