Originally posted by RetrovirusWhere? In Israel? Here in Indonesia? In Portugal? What constitution are you talking about?
Is it constitutional for the government to grant married couples any sort of benefit at all (Joint tax filing , tax deductions, ect. ect. )?
Shouldn't marriage be just between private, adult individuals? What does the government has to do with it?
Originally posted by FMFWell, since the thought came to me after reading this thread:
Where? In Israel? Here in Indonesia? In Portugal? What constitution are you talking about?
http://www.redhotpawn.com/board/showthread.php?threadid=93847
I meant mainly the U.S .
However, the question might be somewhat relevant to all countries.
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Originally posted by RetrovirusLegally recognized marriages offer some degree of protection and security to women here in Indonesia. It's only really men who might sit around wondering about how nice it would be if government had nothing to do with it and if they could just walk away - after there are kids and everything - without any legal responsibilities.
However, the question might be somewhat relevant to all countries.
Originally posted by FMFCan't that be solved through the use of private contracts?
Legally recognized marriages offer some degree of protection and security to women here in Indonesia. It's only really men who might sit around wondering about how nice it would be if government had nothing to do with it and if they could just walk away - after there are kids and everything - without any legal responsibilities.
Originally posted by FMFI don't know about Indonesia, so I'll talk only about Israel and U.S .
Are they?
Some examples from the top of my head:
- Tax benefits (including but not limited to shared filling) : in Israel and in the U.S.
- In U.S : Special benefits to the spouse of someone who servres in the U.S military.
- In Israel : government loans to help young couples (these loans have a somewhat lower interest rate) - that is, married couples.
Originally posted by RetrovirusSo?
I don't know about Indonesia, so I'll talk only about Israel and U.S .
Some examples from the top of my head: - Tax benefits (including but not limited to shared filling) : in Israel and in the U.S. - In U.S : Special benefits to the spouse of someone who serves in the U.S military. - In Israel : government loans to help young couples (these loans have a somewhat lower interest rate) - that is, [b] married couples.[/b]
These are government policies. There'll be a range of reasons for them. Such things in Japan are part of its efforts to combat its ageing population, for example.
If you don't like government policies, campaign against them. Vote against them.
You asked: "Is it constitutional for the government to grant married couples any sort of benefit at all (Joint tax filing , tax deductions, ect. ect. )?"
Presumably the answer is yes. Governments govern. You've framed this question/thread as if its a philosophical question (rights, laws, freedom, privacy). But now I get the impression you just want to question part of the U.S. tax code.
Is it constitutional for the government to tax citizens? I say, of course it is. But I am not an expert on the U.S. constitution. I hear that there are those who argue that taxation is unconstitutional.
"Taxes" affect or are affected by most aspects of national, economic and everyday life. Marriage is an economic arrangement. Do you think that marriage should be singled out as an aspect of economic life that should in some way have no connection to tax?
Originally posted by RetrovirusConstitutional? I don't know. I don't like it though.
Is it constitutional for the government to grant married couples any sort of benefit at all (Joint tax filing , tax deductions, ect. ect. )?
Shouldn't marriage be just between private, adult individuals? What does the government has to do with it?
Originally posted by FMFChildren should be a legal responsibility to both parents whether or not there is marriage.
Legally recognized marriages offer some degree of protection and security to women here in Indonesia. It's only really men who might sit around wondering about how nice it would be if government had nothing to do with it and if they could just walk away - after there are kids and everything - without any legal responsibilities.