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Originally posted by AThousandYoung
"without government"?
To say, as you did, something like: All private contracts are recognized by the US government, unless they're illegal for some reason is just a rather silly truism posing as insight. 'Contracts' do not simply somehow exist and then get recognized by government. It is the existence of government that makes the concept of contracts possible.

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Originally posted by FMF
To say, as you did, something like: [b]All private contracts are recognized by the US government, unless they're illegal for some reason is just a rather silly truism posing as insight. 'Contracts' do not simply somehow exist and then get recognized by government. It is the existence of government that makes the concept of contracts possible.[/b]
I'm, glad you recognize the truth behind what I say 😉

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Originally posted by AThousandYoung
I'm, glad you recognize the truth behind what I say 😉
You didn't say anything. What was your point?

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Originally posted by FMF
You didn't say anything. What was your point?
You just told me I "said a truism".

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Originally posted by AThousandYoung
You just told me I "said a truism".
Exactly. Truisms contribute nothing.

"Children should be a legal responsibility to both parents whether or not there is marriage" ... was another one.

"Even a tribal chief is "government" ... was yet another one.

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Originally posted by FMF
It is the existence of government that makes the concept of contracts possible.
Guvamint might be called upon to enforce a contract occasionally. But most run there course with no guvamint intervention. Whether is a matter of a persons word and a shake of hands, or more formal multi million dollar contracts. Which sometimes run into trouble but even these can be reconciled through a mutually agreed upon independant, non-gummint-bureaurat arbitrator.

The concept of contract exists independant of the concept of guvamint.

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Originally posted by FMF
Exactly. Truisms contribute nothing.

"Children should be a legal responsibility to both parents whether or not there is marriage" ... was another one.

"Even a tribal chief is "government" ... was yet another one.
So...I spoke the truth.

Now, if even a tribal chief is government, then the statement

It is the existence of government that makes the concept of contracts possible.

Is pointless, since there's always government, even at the tribal level.

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Originally posted by AThousandYoung
So...I spoke the truth.

Now, if even a tribal chief is government, then the statement

[b] It is the existence of government that makes the concept of contracts possible.


Is pointless, since there's always government, even at the tribal level.[/b]
You are an interesting guy to discuss things with sometimes. But when you're in this kind of mood, you are a plonker.

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Originally posted by Wajoma
The concept of contract exists independant of the concept of guvamint.
Wrong.

Contracts depend on there being a system of laws. And there is no system of laws without a government.

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Originally posted by FMF
You are an interesting guy to discuss things with sometimes. But when you're in this kind of mood, you are a plonker.
You seem to switch from respect for me to contempt, but either way, you're an arrogant and bitter person without the flexibility to try to understand anything but what you already are convinced of.

You're so often condescending that I don't even try with you; I just try to remember the arrogant, condescending stuff you write, and then mimic it in mockery.

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Originally posted by AThousandYoung
you're [a] person without the flexibility to try to understand anything but what you already are convinced of.
Oh the irony of those words, AThousandYoung!


Anyway. I'll leave you with the last word. See if you can say something devastating with your parting shot...

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Originally posted by FMF
Oh the irony of those words, AThousandYoung!
Feel free to mimic me in irony.

I won't be pursuing you from thread to thread copy-pasting your quotes at you.

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Originally posted by FMF
Wrong.

Contracts depend on there being a system of laws. And there is no system of laws without a government.
Wrong.

Most contracts are fulfilled regardless of guvamint meddling. Contracts are normally mutually beneficial, people hold up their end of the bargain for two reasons, that they might be trusted enough to deal with again and believe it or not some hold prinicples based on trust and honesty.

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Originally posted by Wajoma
Most contracts are fulfilled regardless of guvamint meddling.
I said nothing about government "meddling".

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Originally posted by FMF
I said nothing about government "meddling".
Good for you.