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Mott The Hoople

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...for lying about hillarys emails. How much will he talk?

CNN is going to lose one of their employees! 😳

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@mott-the-hoople said
...for lying about hillarys emails. How much will he talk?

CNN is going to lose one of their employees! 😳
Don't forget, Mott, it is only a recommendation. The final say belongs to the AG. And remember what he did with Comey after being recommended by the Inspector General to indict him, the AG declined.

I hope they nail McCabe right to the cross, so I cross my fingers.

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Used to be, I remember a time when conservatives actually respected law enforcement.

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@suzianne said
Used to be, I remember a time when conservatives actually respected law enforcement.
I remember a time when the White House didn't look like a lunatic asylum .

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@caissad4 said
I remember a time when the White House didn't look like a lunatic asylum .
Hmmmmmm, could it be related, you think?

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@earl-of-trumps said
Don't forget, Mott, it is only a recommendation. The final say belongs to the AG. And remember what he did with Comey after being recommended by the Inspector General to indict him, the AG declined.

I hope they nail McCabe right to the cross, so I cross my fingers.
The IG never recommended that Comey be charged with any criminal offense.

IF McCabe was ever charged with a criminal offense based on the investigations so far, it would be because his story to FBI agents regarding leaks he authorized to the press was contradicted by Comey. Thus, any possibility of a criminal conviction of McCabe would be largely based on a jury's assessment of Comey's credibility.

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@mott-the-hoople said
...for lying about hillarys emails. How much will he talk?

CNN is going to lose one of their employees! 😳
Only Republicans lie, and there is only Republican corruption, which is why we need to elect democrats and only put Republicans in jail.

Get a clue man!!

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@no1marauder said
The IG never recommended that Comey be charged with any criminal offense.

IF McCabe was ever charged with a criminal offense based on the investigations so far, it would be because his story to FBI agents regarding leaks he authorized to the press was contradicted by Comey. Thus, any possibility of a criminal conviction of McCabe would be largely based on a jury's assessment of Comey's credibility.
McCabes (4) lies are not connected to comey at all.

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@whodey said
Only Republicans lie, and there is only Republican corruption, which is why we need to elect democrats and only put Republicans in jail.

Get a clue man!!
Did it actually hurt you physically to write the truth?

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What do you mean 'LOOK'?

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@Mott-The-Hoople
You sycophant assswipe, even the PROSECUTORS thinks the case is VERY weak. But that doesn't stop shiitheads like you from trying to make meat out of it.

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It seems possible, if not likely, that prosecutors could not even get a Grand Jury to file charges against McCabe:

To bring charges against McCabe, prosecutors would have to convince 12 of 23 grand jurors that there was probable cause he had committed a crime — a low legal bar. This week, it seemed prosecutors were on track to do so. The panel that had been investigating McCabe was resummoned after a months-long hiatus, and McCabe was told Thursday that his final bid to persuade the deputy attorney general that charges should not be brought had failed.

But grand jurors came and went with no public indictment being returned. That could be a sign they balked, though it is also possible they have filed a determination under seal or could be asked to return later.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/andrew-mccabes-legal-team-asks-justice-dept-if-grand-jury-rejected-charges-in-his-case/ar-AAHfOX9?li=BBnbfcL

One could reasonably ask why all of a sudden the DOJ is pressing for an indictment when the IG report regarding McCabe's "lack of candor" was issued in February 2018. McCabe filed a wrongful termination lawsuit against the Feds in early August and this might be simply a politically motivated retaliatory measure by the hacks in the Barr DOJ.

This Lawfare article spells out how unusual it would be to charge an employee for statements made during an internal governmental review:

At least based on what’s in the inspector general’s report, this is very far from a criminal case. Criminal dispositions on false statements matters in internal investigations are exceptionally rare. Absent some gross aggravating factor, I struggle to think of any other examples. Workplace false statements are normally handled through internal disciplinary means, not criminal charges. There are countless public cases of gross misconduct and lies about that misconduct that are routinely declined as criminal matters. Here are a few examples of such cases culled from recent Office of the Inspector General investigations:

Findings of Misconduct by a United States Marshal for Making an Inappropriate Comment about Shooting a Judge and for Lack of Candor
Findings of Misconduct by a DEA Assistant Special Agent in Charge for Failure to Act in a Professional Manner, and by a DEA Special Agent in Charge for Favoritism and Providing False Statements to the OIG Concerning the Allegations Involving the ASAC
Findings of Misconduct by a Senior DOJ Official for Ethical Misconduct, Sexual Harassment, Sexual Assault, and Lack of Candor to the OIG
Findings of Misconduct by an FBI Official for Accepting Gifts From Members of the Media and for Lack of Candor
Findings of Misconduct by an FBI Special Agent for Receiving Gifts from a Former FBI Confidential Human Source, Using the Source After Deactivation, Protecting the Source and the Source’s Illegal Business, Misusing FBI Assets for Personal Gain, Lack of Candor, and Computer Security Policy Violations
Findings of Misconduct by an FBI Special Agent for Contacting Witnesses for an Improper Purpose, Divulging Law Enforcement Sensitive Information to Unauthorized Individuals, Providing Misleading Testimony, Providing False Information to the OIG, Mishandling Classified Information, and Misusing Government Devices and his Position
Findings Concerning Misconduct by a U.S. Attorney for Having an Inappropriate Relationship with a Subordinate, Attempting to Influence or Impede an OIG Investigation, and Other Misconduct
Findings of Misconduct by an FBI Assistant Special Agent in Charge For Submitting False Travel Vouchers, Lacking Candor, and Other Misconduct In Connection With His Relocation
Findings of Misconduct by an AUSA for Improperly Receiving, Viewing, Copying, and Sharing Personally Identifiable Information of Coworkers, and Lacking Candor with Supervisors
Findings of Misconduct by an FBI Unit Chief, Including Acceptance of Gifts from Vendors, Giving Preferential Treatment, and Misuse of Position
Findings Concerning a DOJ Attorney Who Sent Harassing E-mails to Government Employees and Lacked Candor with the OIG
The list could go on and on and on, but you get the point. Indeed, the extraordinary thing about McCabe’s case compared to these ones is that the Justice Department appears to have engineered McCabe’s firing, ostensibly in response to the inspector general’s finding of a lack of candor, mere hours before his retirement eligibility. It’s true that the FBI routinely treats lack of candor as a fireable offense—but it remains unexplained why the Justice Department seemingly raced the clock in order to push McCabe out rather than proceed at the usual pace and note that he would have been subject to disciplinary proceedings if he had not retired. That alone is a vindictive level of harshness relative to the norm. Criminal prosecution is several standard deviations from the norm.

https://www.lawfareblog.com/thoughts-impending-prosecution-andrew-mccabe

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Again, what happened this week is peculiar to say the least:

Normally, when the Justice Department informs a criminal target that it is moving ahead with charges, particularly when the target is a high-profile one, the indictment follows immediately. Yet in this case, no indictment materialized. And that wasn’t because the grand jury didn’t meet.

According to the Post, rather, the grand jury was reconvened on Thursday—but no public charges against McCabe were filed. Now, McCabe’s lawyer, Michael Bromwich, has written to U.S. Attorney Jessie Liu, whose office is handling McCabe’s case, stating that the defense team has heard “rumors from reporters … that the grand jury considering charges against Mr. McCabe had declined to vote an indictment”—though the defense has “no independent knowledge of whether the reporting is accurate.” Bromwich added that “based on our discussion with” government lawyers, “it is clear that no indictment has been returned.”

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There have also long been reasons to doubt the strength of the case, not the least of which is that two of the prosecutors who supervised it have dropped off the matter.

All of this is the background to whatever happened yesterday, when the grand jury met after McCabe’s lawyers had been informed that an indictment would be sought—and yet no indictment emerged.

https://www.lawfareblog.com/mystery-mccabe-grand-jury

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@caissad4 said
I remember a time when the White House didn't look like a lunatic asylum .
Oh, you remember the good old days, too, when Bill was having cigar sex with an intern in the Oval Orifice?

Oh yeah! "Devil with the Blue Dress Blue Dress Blue Dress onnnnn"

And just think, if Big Hil had won... we would have had our first First Rapist getting a chance to usher in those good old days.

Be still my heart

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@whodey
So the corruption in the recent vote in North Carolina where a REPUBLICAN political operative was arrested and the entire election killed and a new vote scheduled, That doesn't count BECAUSE it was republicans who initiated that fraud.
You only report voter fraud if DEMOCRATS do it.
I don't see a FUKKING WORD from you about the LITERAL fraud that went on in North Carolina.
You FUKKING HYPOCRITE.

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