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@whodey said
You call Trump and his supporters as right wing, yet he has single handedly incorporated a universal income, health care, Martial law, and massive debt with their approval.

If this is right wing, I want nothing to do with any of it.

Trump is your New York City tool.
We don't have any of the first three.

And the "massive debt" we do have is derived mainly from huge tax cuts for the wealthy and big corporations and ridiculously unnecessary military spending both of which real "leftists" bitterly opposed.

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@no1marauder said
We don't have any of the first three.

And the "massive debt" we do have is derived mainly from huge tax cuts for the wealthy and big corporations and military spending.
When it comes to Covid we do.

But any universal income and health care that may exist is never promised to you either. It can all change on a governmental whim.


@no1marauder said
A far out one.
So you are a liar.


@whodey said
All I know is that corporate monsters like Amazon and WalMart are doing just fine and allowed to remain open, while other small businesses that are not deemed "essential" are closing for good.

Soon the Left will have a monopoly of corporations controlling everything, like the Warren Buffet types and Bezos types and Gates types who all are ravenous democrats.
All I know is that corporate monsters like Amazon and WalMart are doing just fine and allowed to remain open, while other small businesses that are not deemed "essential" are closing for good.

That's all you know? I'm not surprised ! 😏


@whodey said
All I know is that corporate monsters like Amazon and WalMart are doing just fine and allowed to remain open, while other small businesses that are not deemed "essential" are closing for good.

Soon the Left will have a monopoly of corporations controlling everything, like the Warren Buffet types and Bezos types and Gates types who all are ravenous democrats.
Here's a thread where you criticized AOC and others for not caving in to "corporate monster" Amazon's demands for taxpayer giveaways in order for the company to put its headquarters in NYC. https://www.redhotpawn.com/forum/debates/congrats-to-aoc.180153


@no1marauder

Perhaps you can find a post I have made anywhere supporting corporate welfare.

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@no1marauder said
We don't have any of the first three.

And the "massive debt" we do have is derived mainly from huge tax cuts for the wealthy and big corporations and ridiculously unnecessary military spending both of which real "leftists" bitterly opposed.
No1, you don't get "massive debt" from tax cuts. It can only come from spending.

Having been pretty close to the US military machine I concede that the money involved is, actually, I'm lost for superlatives. Even if it were running smoothly it would stun you, but the buratcracy involved, oh dear, health & safety and environmental has gone way completely over the top. It costs something like 5 to 10 times more to build a military house than average Joe on the street pays.

Where did I get this info? Sorry guys, classified 😉

BTW reducing the military is a Libertarian policy. And they've got a pretty sane looking candidate now who doesn't wear a boot on his head, Justin Amash. Of course there's the usual inter libertarian flame wars about Amash's purity but if you'd like to see the size and scope of goobermint reduced, take a look.

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@wajoma said
No1, you don't get "massive debt" from tax cuts. It can only come from spending.

Having been pretty close to the US military machine I concede that the money involved is, actually, I'm lost for superlatives. Even if it were running smoothly it would stun you, but the buratcracy involved, oh dear, health & safety and environmental has gone way completely over the top. It ...[text shortened]... ouse than average Joe on the street pays.

Where did I get this info? Sorry guys, classified 😉
If you choose to reduce your revenue, you'll get added debt if all else is held equal.


@no1marauder said
If you choose to reduce your revenue, you'll get added debt if all else is held equal.
That does nothing to refute my point, debt can only come from spending, take your weasel words somewhere else ( to the other weasels maybe)


@wajoma said
That does nothing to refute my point, debt can only come from spending, take your weasel words somewhere else ( to the other weasels maybe)
Your "point" is refuted by simple arithmetic.

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@eladar said
@no1marauder

Am I a right winger?
You’re sounding very much like a Communist.
Anti-corporation, anti-wealth, anti-Capitalism.

What should I think?
The people you are fighting tooth and nail with in these forums are of exactly the same ideological inclination as you guys.
You know. Those that you label as radical Socialists that hate large corporations, wealth, and Capitalism.

You guys should climb into the same sandbox and get to know each other better. 😛

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@mghrn55 said
You’re sounding very much like a Communist.
Anti-corporation, anti-wealth, anti-Capitalism.

What should I think?
The people you are fighting tooth and nail with in these forums are of exactly the same ideological inclination as you guys.
You know. Those that you label as radical Socialists that hate large corporations, wealth, and Capitalism.

You guys should climb into the same sandbox and get to know each other better. 😛
Is that what you call a traditional American?

No welfare
No corporate welfare
Public is owned by the government
Private is protected from the government


@whodey said
It is also interesting that Leftists like AOC wanted Americans to not travel by air anymore, and Leftists like Warren Buffet are dumping all their stock in airlines stating that it is a different world now.

https://nypost.com/2020/05/04/airline-stocks-plunge-after-buffett-dumps-berkshire-hathaway-stake/
Wow. More reasons for AOC to smile ear to ear.

All these deaths, economy going to rot, airlines hurting, meat trade hurting, - she has to be a bit orgasmic right about now.


@no1marauder said - And the "massive debt" we do have is derived mainly from huge tax cuts for the wealthy and big corporations

you're out of your f'n mind.

Overspending by big fat engorged cats in Washington is why we are in debt and have been going back to Reagan.

You have a certain level of income, don't spend beyond that. Every American has to live by that simple math. And yet the enterprise with the largest income in the history of mankind just can't seem to make ends meet!

Overspending, No1. that's the soul reason.


@wajoma said
No1, you don't get "massive debt" from tax cuts. It can only come from spending.
I suspect that the alphabet wasn't long enough for your economics teacher to give you a grade.