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  1. 02 Jan '18 14:18
    Originally posted by @no1marauder
    The stupid lies never cease from you; there is zero evidence that Mary Jo Kopechne was Ted Kennedy's mistress; in fact, she didn't know him well at all. Her parents would be disgusted with your scurrilous lying for political propaganda purposes.

    You can vote against Joe Kennedy for having his mentally disabled daughter have a lobotomy (a common proce ...[text shortened]... now. Why that, in your mind, would have anything to do with Roy Moore is rather hard to imagine.
    From Breitbart, your favorite:

    Unmentioned in the mainstream media’s usual ululations over Kennedy was what Wikipedia delicately calls the “Chappaquiddick incident.” After leaving a party with Miss Mary Jo Kopechne, a dedicated worker who served during Robert F. Kennedy’s 1968 campaign, Kennedy drove off a bridge and escaped the doomed car, leaving Kopechne behind to die. Also unmentioned: The Edward M. Kennedy Center’s eerie resemblance to an ancient noble’s tomb, where a master is buried with sacrificed underlings.



    A quick rundown: On July 18, 1969, Kennedy left a small party with Kopechne. Kennedy later testified he merely planned to drop the pretty, petite blonde off at her hotel room. But Kopechne let no one know she was leaving with him and left her hotel key behind. Kennedy made a wrong turn on the Massachusetts island’s road, and drove off the Dike Bridge into Poucha Pond. Kennedy somehow escaped — perhaps before the car’s engine dragged it down — and swan to shore. Inexplicably, he called Kopechne’s name a few times (because that would help), dived into the pond a few times, then left for his hotel without notifying residents or authorities until after 8 AM the next day after sleeping off the party, well after poor Mary Jo could hope to be rescued.

    Kopechne was swiftly buried only a day after she died. A district attorney petitioned to exhume her to determine the cause of death, but his request was denied by a judge — making it impossible to determine whether Kopechne, whose mouth and nose were filled with blood, had drowned quickly or suffocated to death. Both fates are horrible, but Kopechne would have succumbed to suffocation less quickly than drowning, allowing more time for rescuers to save her.

    John Farrar, head of the volunteer search and rescue team in Edgartown, reached the scene in 20 minutes the next morning and found Kopechne’s corpse twisted in such a way as to indicate she was searching for pockets of air. Farrar believes she lived for two hours after the crash — not that his testimony would ever go on record.

    “I was told outright by the D.A.’s office that I would not be allowed to testify on how long Kopechne was alive in the car,” he told People magazine in July 1989. “They were not interested in the least in anything that would hurt Ted Kennedy.”

    Kennedy pled guilty to leaving the scene of an accident causing injury. In sentencing, Judge James Boyle suspended the minimum requirement of two month’s imprisonment, citing Kennedy’s “unblemished record,” effectively wiping out the significance of his victim’s death.

    Kennedy suffered no legal consequences beyond a suspended license.

    When Kennedy passed away in 2009 after a battle with brain cancer, liberals played down Kopechne’s death:

    Kennedy’s “achievements as a senator have towered over his time, changing the lives of far more Americans than remember the name Mary Jo Kopechne,” wrote Kennedy biographer Adam Clymer. As conservative commentator Mark Steyn bitterly remarked while chronicling Kennedy’s eulogies, “You can’t make an omelet without breaking chicks, right?”

    Melissa Lafsky called Kopechne the “catalyst” for Kennedy’s political career, since he never served jail time. That “injustice,” Lafsy later wrote, made it possible for Kennedy to keep his Senate seat and run for president.



    “It doesn’t automatically make someone (aka, me) a Limbaugh-loving, aerial-wolf-hunting NRA troll what Mary Jo Kopechne would have had to say about Ted’s death, and what she’d have thought of the life and career that are being (rightfully) heralded,” Lafsky wrote in a now-deleted editorial for the Huffington Post. “Who knows — maybe she’d feel it was worth it.”

    Author Joyce Carol Oates also weighed Koepechne’s life in the balance and found her death acceptable collateral damage. Obama praised Kennedy for delivering him the Democratic nomination in 2008, which eases the liberal conscience.

    “[I]f one weighs the life of a single young woman against the accomplishments of the man President Obama has called the greatest Democratic senator in history, what is one to think?” Oates wrote in an (also deleted) editorial.

    Yes, lick a few envelopes, knock on a few doors, then possibly suffocate to death while trapped in a sinking car in the dead of night, drawing shallower and shallower breaths as you bang helplessly on the glass windows as your liberal “lion” leaves you for dead — all in a campaign worker’s abruptly-shortened life, right?

    In a callous twist, Obama took it one step further and praised Kennedy’s supposed compassion.



    “By the age of 12, he was a member of a Gold Star Family. By 36, two of his brothers were stolen from him in the most tragic, public of ways,” Obama said. “By 41, he nearly lost a beloved child to cancer. And that made suffering something he knew. And it made him more alive to the suffering of others.”

    Leaving a woman to die in a submerged car clearly didn’t strike the same notes of empathy in Kennedy. He had bigger things to worry about at the time — like the loud party that stopped him from falling asleep after that exhausting business of driving a car off a bridge.

    How do liberals plan to square their “War on Women” rhetoric with their lionization of a man who left woman who dedicated her life — and unwillingly, her death — to Kennedy’s political designs?

    One might say they’ll just have to drive off that bridge when they come to it.
  2. 02 Jan '18 14:22
    So what about the Breitbart account do you disagree with?

    She was an attractive young woman and they were alone together after coming home from a party. Seems innocent enough, eh maurader?

    So why did he drive her into the pond and then leave the scene telling no one till the next day? Why did he first contact his lawyer? Hmm?

    You disgust me, as to the Camelot propaganda press who largely ignored Joe Kennedy giving his daughter a lobotomy that disabled her, all because she was an embarrassment to him and hurt his image. God forbid that would then cause him to lose some of his power and influence that was more important to him than his own flesh and blood,.

    But then, most liberals would murder their own flesh and blood rather than having to take care of them if they were mentally disadvantaged in some way via abortion.
  3. Subscriber no1marauder
    It's Nice to Be Nice
    02 Jan '18 19:53 / 1 edit
    Originally posted by @whodey
    So what about the Breitbart account do you disagree with?

    She was an attractive young woman and they were alone together after coming home from a party. Seems innocent enough, eh maurader?

    So why did he drive her into the pond and then leave the scene telling no one till the next day? Why did he first contact his lawyer? Hmm?

    You disgust me, as ...[text shortened]... r than having to take care of them if they were mentally disadvantaged in some way via abortion.
    Where, in any of that, is there one shred of evidence that she was Ted's mistress?

    No where. You lied and lied shamelessly.

    And you will continue to spew lies on this forum for political propaganda purposes. That is what you do.
  4. 02 Jan '18 23:44
    Originally posted by @no1marauder
    Where, in any of that, is there one shred of evidence that she was Ted's mistress?

    No where. You lied and lied shamelessly.

    And you will continue to spew lies on this forum for political propaganda purposes. That is what you do.
    Yeah...and Marilyn Monroe wasn't Jacks mistress either...LMFAO
  5. 03 Jan '18 00:24
    Originally posted by @no1marauder
    Where, in any of that, is there one shred of evidence that she was Ted's mistress?

    No where. You lied and lied shamelessly.

    And you will continue to spew lies on this forum for political propaganda purposes. That is what you do.
    HELLO!!!!!

    Whether she was or not he certainly left her to die, didn't he. That has been proven, but partisan hacks like you don't give a damn.

    My theory of it being his mistress is more believable than Trump colluding with Putin. That you have no problem believing.
  6. 03 Jan '18 00:30
    Originally posted by @no1marauder
    A) The Trump dossier wasn't "fabricated" by anyone; it's a compilation of information prepared by a Russian expert who had previously worked for British Intelligence. https://www.vanityfair.com/news/2017/03/how-the-explosive-russian-dossier-was-compiled-christopher-steele

    B) The dossier was reported in the news well after revelations of Trump's invol ...[text shortened]...

    The media gives whatever information it can glean from ongoing investigations all the time.
    And the many, many, many sources which can be quoted in order to corroborate your claim solidify the veracity thereof.
    One teensy-tiny little problem with your http://'s however.
    If all of these reliable sources were true, doesn't it stand to reason that with all of his alleged foes in the Dunghill Capitol of the world, charges would have been put forth at least once in the last year?
    Once?
  7. Subscriber no1marauder
    It's Nice to Be Nice
    03 Jan '18 00:36 / 1 edit
    Originally posted by @whodey
    HELLO!!!!!

    Whether she was or not he certainly left her to die, didn't he. That has been proven, but partisan hacks like you don't give a damn.

    My theory of it being his mistress is more believable than Trump colluding with Putin. That you have no problem believing.
    You have no "theory"; just a bunch of lies.

    In the other thread you claimed:

    A) That Mary Jo Kopechne was Ted's mistress - you've produced NO evidence that supports that claim;

    B) That she was pregnant - again NO evidence exists to support that claim;

    C) That Ted Kennedy murdered her - again NO evidence has been produced.

    So you're a shameless liar. If you had said that Ted Kennedy's actions that night were shameful, I would have agreed with you. But you are not content with that and instead tell a bunch of lies that impinge the character and memory of an innocent woman for no reason other than political propaganda.
  8. Subscriber no1marauder
    It's Nice to Be Nice
    03 Jan '18 00:37
    Originally posted by @freakykbh
    And the many, many, many sources which can be quoted in order to corroborate your claim solidify the veracity thereof.
    One teensy-tiny little problem with your http://'s however.
    If all of these reliable sources were true, doesn't it stand to reason that with all of his alleged foes in the Dunghill Capitol of the world, charges would have been put forth at least once in the last year?
    Once?
    Charges were brought and more almost certainly will be.
  9. 03 Jan '18 00:49
    Originally posted by @no1marauder
    Charges were brought and more almost certainly will be.
    You're just as deluded as the rest of them.
  10. 03 Jan '18 12:31
    Originally posted by @freakykbh
    You're just as deluded as the rest of them.
    All he knows in life is, Hillary never lied and Ted Kennedy was justified in walking away from the car crash that drowned his date.
  11. Standard member wolfgang59
    Infidel
    03 Jan '18 19:36
    Originally posted by @eladar
    They (the BBC) are a state run propaganda machine.
    Do you just make stuff up?

    The BBC are
    * not state run.
    * not a "Propaganda Machine"
    * frequently at odds with the British Government
  12. Subscriber no1marauder
    It's Nice to Be Nice
    03 Jan '18 22:44
    Originally posted by @whodey
    All he knows in life is, Hillary never lied and Ted Kennedy was justified in walking away from the car crash that drowned his date.
    Another shamelessly lying post.

    That is what you do.
  13. 03 Jan '18 23:37
    Originally posted by @whodey
    All he knows in life is, Hillary never lied and Ted Kennedy was justified in walking away from the car crash that drowned his date.
    Still sour that that uppity girlie almost defeated your beloved Trump, are you?
  14. Subscriber kmax87
    You've got Kevin
    04 Jan '18 16:00
    Originally posted by @mott-the-hoople
    https://www.yahoo.com/news/australian-diplomats-tip-factor-fbis-russia-probe-183902427--politics.html

    So now that dossier has been found to be fabricated by Clinton campaign and dnc, the MSM is telling us well that wasn't the reason for the investigation anyway. WTF? What were fisa warrants based on?

    For the liberals that have been duped, this ...[text shortened]... of this.Do you not wonder why YOUR media is giving you information on an ongoing investigation?
    This is the text of your link

    " WASHINGTON (AP) — An Australian diplomat's tip appears to have helped persuade the FBI to investigate Russian meddling in the U.S. election and possible coordination with the Trump campaign, The New York Times reported Saturday.

    Trump campaign adviser George Papadopoulos told the diplomat, Alexander Downer, during a meeting in London in May 2016 that Russia had thousands of emails that would embarrass Democratic candidate Hillary Clinton, the report said. Downer, a former foreign minister, is Australia's top diplomat in Britain.

    Australia passed the information on to the FBI after the Democratic emails were leaked, according to The Times, which cited four current and former U.S. and foreign officials with direct knowledge of the Australians' role.

    "The hacking and the revelation that a member of the Trump campaign may have had inside information about it were driving factors that led the FBI to open an investigation in July 2016," the newspaper said.

    White House lawyer Ty Cobb declined to comment, saying in a statement that the administration is continuing to cooperate with the investigation now led by special counsel Robert Mueller "to help complete their inquiry expeditiously."

    Papadopoulos has pleaded guilty to lying to the FBI and is a cooperating witness. Court documents unsealed two months ago show he met in April 2016 with Joseph Mifsud, a professor in London who told him about Russia's cache of emails. This was before the Democratic National Committee became aware of the scope of the intrusion into its email systems by hackers later linked to the Russian government.

    The Times said Papadopoulos shared this information with Downer, but it was unclear whether he also shared it with anyone in the Trump campaign."

    What part of this report suggests or supports your opinion that the "dossier has been found to be fabricated by Clinton campaign" ...?
  15. 04 Jan '18 16:05
    Originally posted by @kmax87
    This is the text of your link

    " WASHINGTON (AP) — An Australian diplomat's tip appears to have helped persuade the FBI to investigate Russian meddling in the U.S. election and possible coordination with the Trump campaign, The New York Times reported Saturday.

    Trump campaign adviser George Papadopoulos told the diplomat, Alexander Downer, during a meet ...[text shortened]... rts your opinion that the "dossier has been found to be fabricated by Clinton campaign" ...?
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    that is because my question was ..."what was fisa warrants based on"?
    And it is common knowledge Clinton and DNC was involved in dossier, but that wasn't point of my posting. I really don't see how you confused that.