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    The British and US condone money laundering to encourage capital flow to their economies.

    https://topdocumentaryfilms.com/spider-web-britain-second-empire/

    If you ever wondered why it is so easy to launder money without getting caught it is because the "powers that be" want it that way and they do not want it to change.

    Money trumps ethics, right?
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    @metal-brain said
    The British and US condone money laundering to encourage capital flow to their economies.

    https://topdocumentaryfilms.com/spider-web-britain-second-empire/

    If you ever wondered why it is so easy to launder money without getting caught it is because the "powers that be" want it that way and they do not want it to change.

    Money trumps ethics, right?
    Tell us how that works then.
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    @wolfgang59 said
    Tell us how that works then.
    Did you watch the film? It is explained in the film.

    Money laundering is fine with a country as long as that money is laundered through that country. The elites also set up tax havens to evade taxes in both the US and UK. Here is a link with a video of Carl Levin explaining it.

    https://www.c-span.org/video/?409554-4/washington-journal-senator-carl-levin-d-mi

    The elites don't pay income taxes. They are like kings. They collect taxes, they don't pay them. They don't pay for war they benefit from, they make everyone else pay for it. Even thought the income tax payer doesn't benefit from war at all, most are happy about it. They don't realize how badly they are getting screwed.
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    @metal-brain said
    Did you watch the film? It is explained in the film.

    Money laundering is fine with a country as long as that money is laundered through that country. The elites also set up tax havens to evade taxes in both the US and UK. Here is a link with a video of Carl Levin explaining it.

    https://www.c-span.org/video/?409554-4/washington-journal-senator-carl-levin-d-mi

    The ...[text shortened]... fit from war at all, most are happy about it. They don't realize how badly they are getting screwed.
    I am absolutely bored clicking to your right-wing propaganda.

    Tell me, here.
    If it is believable I will then go to your corroborating links.
    OK?
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    @wolfgang59 said
    I am absolutely bored clicking to your right-wing propaganda.

    Tell me, here.
    If it is believable I will then go to your corroborating links.
    OK?
    Right wing? Carl Levin is a democrat.

    Shell companies don't have the names of the owners in the US. It is perfect for money laundering and tax evasion. The UK condones money laundering in former colonies and pretends they have no control over it when they do. Money flows through London at a massive scale.
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    @metal-brain said
    Right wing? Carl Levin is a democrat.
    I've never heard of Carl Levin and don't pretend I have called him right wing!
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    @metal-brain said
    The British and US condone money laundering to encourage capital flow to their economies.

    https://topdocumentaryfilms.com/spider-web-britain-second-empire/

    If you ever wondered why it is so easy to launder money without getting caught it is because the "powers that be" want it that way and they do not want it to change.

    Money trumps ethics, right?
    Money laundering in the United States is punishable by up to 20 years in prison.

    https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/18/1956

    It is also punished more harshly than fraud with the same amount of subject money. (See Federal Sentencing Guidelines Section 2S1.1.)

    https://www.ussc.gov/guidelines

    It doesn't sound like they "condone money laundering" to me.
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    @wolfgang59 said
    I've never heard of Carl Levin and don't pretend I have called him right wing!
    Then what exactly are you calling right wing? Did you make it up without justification? It sure seems like you did since nothing I posted is right wing.
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    @sh76 said
    Money laundering in the United States is punishable by up to 20 years in prison.

    https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/18/1956

    It is also punished more harshly than fraud with the same amount of subject money. (See Federal Sentencing Guidelines Section 2S1.1.)

    https://www.ussc.gov/guidelines

    It doesn't sound like they "condone money laundering" to me.
    Just because there is a law doesn't mean it is always enforced. Carl Levin tried to pass legislation to put names to shell companies. It is a very simple solution if it had a chance of passing. It didn't pass because money laundering is condoned.

    You would know that if you had watched either of the 2 links I posted in my OP. You really should make the time to watch them.

    Banks condone all sorts of nefarious activity.

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/archive/politics/1991/07/28/bcci-scandal-behind-the-bank-of-crooks-and-criminals/563f2216-1180-4094-a13d-fd4955d59435/?utm_term=.b634edfa59ac
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    Sounds like an attempt to minimize one of the crimes that might eventually land Trump in prison.
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    @wolfe63 said
    Sounds like an attempt to minimize one of the crimes that might eventually land Trump in prison.
    I have been very critical of Trump for not releasing his taxes and I have done so on this forum many times. Trump's taxes are the real scandal. He clearly has something to hide there. Not so with the Russia distraction.
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    @metal-brain said
    Just because there is a law doesn't mean it is always enforced. Carl Levin tried to pass legislation to put names to shell companies. It is a very simple solution if it had a chance of passing. It didn't pass because money laundering is condoned.

    You would know that if you had watched either of the 2 links I posted in my OP. You really should make the time to watch the ...[text shortened]... behind-the-bank-of-crooks-and-criminals/563f2216-1180-4094-a13d-fd4955d59435/?utm_term=.b634edfa59ac
    They might not always be enforced, but I can tell you from first hand experience (I worked for the US Attorney's office way back when), that we put people away for a long time for money laundering (though usually combined with underlying offenses).

    An organization that launders money on the gamble that the feds will turn a blind eye is taking a mammoth and very unsound risk.
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    @wolfe63 said
    Sounds like an attempt to minimize one of the crimes that might eventually land Trump in prison.
    It's much older than Trump, and he doesn't make the laws that rule the Square Mile.
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    16 Nov '18 17:20
    @sh76 said
    Money laundering in the United States is punishable by up to 20 years in prison.

    https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/18/1956

    It is also punished more harshly than fraud with the same amount of subject money. (See Federal Sentencing Guidelines Section 2S1.1.)

    https://www.ussc.gov/guidelines

    It doesn't sound like they "condone money laundering" to me.
    A cursory glance at the occupant of the White House should tell you that the enforcement of laws tackling white collar crime is rather lackluster.
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    16 Nov '18 22:43
    @sh76 said
    They might not always be enforced, but I can tell you from first hand experience (I worked for the US Attorney's office way back when), that we put people away for a long time for money laundering (though usually combined with underlying offenses).

    An organization that launders money on the gamble that the feds will turn a blind eye is taking a mammoth and very unsound risk.
    Foreigners get away with it more. The whole point is attracting foreign money to your banks. If you had watched the film you would know that.

    BCCI even condoned terrorism. Did you read the link?
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