Really, dude,, brenancenter.org???
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"Generally considered liberal, the Brennan Center advocates for a number of progressive public policy positions, including raising the minimum wage, opposing voter ID laws, and calling for public funding of elections. The organization opposed the U.S. Supreme Court's ruling in Citizens United v. ..."
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If they are against voter ID laws they are UN-democratic, as 85% of the people WANT voter ID laws.
I wouldn't trust what these fools have to say about democracy or anything else political. Try again.
@Earl-of-Trump
The case is not about voter ID. It is to give repub states the ability to have their own electors so if a Dem wins, they go NAY, we have our own electors saying Trump wins or whatever zombe repub is running.
THAT is the issue.
I can only assume you are fine with that and the literal end to democracy in the US.
Is that ok with you? The system rigged like Russia or China? So repubs win for the next 100 years?
You have to realize repubs want one thing and one thing only. POWER and MORE POWER.
There is ZERO in the way of policy coming from the zombies, ONLY revenge, enemy lists and the like.
Is that how you want the US to be run for the next 100 years?
@sonhouse saidIt’s the big capitalist corporations that want permanent power and they see the GOP as their best Trojan horse to permanent residency in the White House.
@Earl-of-Trump
The case is not about voter ID. It is to give repub states the ability to have their own electors so if a Dem wins, they go NAY, we have our own electors saying Trump wins or whatever zombe repub is running.
THAT is the issue.
I can only assume you are fine with that and the literal end to democracy in the US.
Is that ok with you? The system rigged ...[text shortened]... LY revenge, enemy lists and the like.
Is that how you want the US to be run for the next 100 years?
Corporations see real democracy as a treat to their profit margins and a bi yearly cause of market instability.
But yeah the the case you mentioned is a huge leap toward a permanent GOP dictatorship.
@kevcvs57
Only scoffing from the ultrarightwingnuts here, probably because that is EXACTLY what they want but refuse to either acknowledge it or even seriously discuss it.
It seems clear they don't really want a democracy. God help us if Moore is enabled by SCOTUS.
We will see just how far ultrarightwing they are when the decision is read.
Maybe, just maybe, it would be considered a step too far even for those rightwingers who have taken over SCOTUS.
@sonhouse saidYes, I myself do not want a democracy if it is majority rule. That is what the definition of democracy is in one of my google defs. What is your definition?
@kevcvs57
Only scoffing from the ultrarightwingnuts here, probably because that is EXACTLY what they want but refuse to either acknowledge it or even seriously discuss it.
It seems clear they don't really want a democracy. God help us if Moore is enabled by SCOTUS.
We will see just how far ultrarightwing they are when the decision is read.
Maybe, just maybe, it would be considered a step too far even for those rightwingers who have taken over SCOTUS.
@averagejoe1 saidWhat is a democracy in your definition ?
Yes, I myself do not want a democracy if it is majority rule. That is what the definition of democracy is in one of my google defs. What is your definition?
@sonhouse saidThe electoral system SUCKS and we will never have true democracy until they dismantle it.
@Earl-of-Trump
The case is not about voter ID. It is to give repub states the ability to have their own electors so if a Dem wins, they go NAY, we have our own electors saying Trump wins or whatever zombe repub is running.
THAT is the issue.
I can only assume you are fine with that and the literal end to democracy in the US.
Is that ok with you? The system rigged ...[text shortened]... LY revenge, enemy lists and the like.
Is that how you want the US to be run for the next 100 years?
And don't you think the democrats will do this same thing in blue states, ,if what you say is true? C'mon, dude.
Just go back to 2016, Bernie Sanders wins New Hampshire in the democratic primary. You know what happened...?
The DNC (Hillary headed) used super delegates to take the win away from Bernie and hand it to Hillary (herself).
Were you complaining then, sonhouse?
I bet not.
@Earl-of-Trumps
In other words, you can't admit you WANT democracy to fail and repub zombies to rule forever. You aren't discussing the issue, you are clearly avoiding it.
I don't give a rats ass about what if's, Moore is set to legally allow states to make their own electors, whether you hate the electoral college system or not, it is what we have right now and having a bunch of states not liking the way the vote goes and just kick out those duly appointed electors and throw in their own so THEIR party wins ALWAYS.
You think that is better than the electoral college we have right now?
@AverageJoe1
So you want minority rule instead. That is what repubs want to since that is what they are today.
@sonhouse saidYou just think most people are right wingers. I am a left winger that will defend anybody in any political party if they happen to be right about something. You only defend people in one political party. You will even cover up the truth if it is unfavorable to that one party. Then when someone brings up the truth again you call the truth a lie which is propaganda.
https://www.brennancenter.org/our-work/research-reports/moore-v-harper-explained
It seems most of the posters here are rightwingers.
I assume you will be ecstatic at the death of democracy and your repub party in power permanently.
That's what you all want isn't it?
You resort to propaganda out of party loyalty. That is how extreme your political bias has become. You try to intentionally mislead people away from the truth.
@earl-of-trumps said"Just go back to 2016, Bernie Sanders wins New Hampshire in the democratic primary. You know what happened...?
The electoral system SUCKS and we will never have true democracy until they dismantle it.
And don't you think the democrats will do this same thing in blue states, ,if what you say is true? C'mon, dude.
Just go back to 2016, Bernie Sanders wins New Hampshire in the democratic primary. You know what happened...?
The DNC (Hillary headed) used super delegates to tak ...[text shortened]... from Bernie and hand it to Hillary (herself).
Were you complaining then, sonhouse?
I bet not.
The DNC (Hillary headed) used super delegates to take the win away from Bernie and hand it to Hillary (herself)."
The same thing happened here in Michigan. You are right. This is not a democracy. It was already rigged long before sonhouse started crying over losing what was lost long ago. The republican party has their own way of rigging elections in certain situations too. They just wait until the convention to do it if they choose.
@sonhouse saidI want the minority to have a voice. Are you daft, Sonhouse?
@AverageJoe1
So you want minority rule instead. That is what repubs want to since that is what they are today.
Oh, did you tell us if you are in favor of Majority Rule, as is Marauder.?
@AverageJoe1
Tell me what YOU think majority rule is. To me it is the winner is the one who gets the most votes. Now I assume you will diss the electoral college and what then? So we get rid of the electoral college and go with votes like in a lot of other democracies.
I think what you want is if someone wins by 4 % or so the other bunch should have near equal representation in congress which of course would guarantee nothing would ever get done because you KNOW repubs are ONLY after power and want nothing to do with making life better for the common folk. Like voting down the idea of lowering the cost of insulin, proving right there they are tied by the hip to big pharm and of course a dozen other big corps which is their ONLY concern.
@Metal-Brain
BLA BLA BLA. You are an avowed communist. That tells ALL of it right there. You HATE the US and want to destroy our democracy and that is RINGINGLY clear.