@AverageJoe1 saidSee, my posts are always very strong and accurate. 😆
When I say weak post above, I speak of this kind of stuff. You are of sue category. Just throw stuff out without thinking, nothing to respond to. You write this as if you are unaware of the world around you.
So here are a few links about the same thing, one may grab you?
https://www.foxnews.com/media/epa-administrator-likens-biden-energy-scheme-connected-stacey- ...[text shortened]... ill you tell Sue that her hard-earned tax money has been sent to this creature to spend as she will?
If I had found "waste" in the government I would say: "On the aircraft carrier USS America, in 1984, they removed all the perfectly good brass fittings on the ship, dumped them over the side in Norfolk, and replaced them. The order was given because because they had to use up their budget for the year."
Like that. That's government waste, and an extremely strong post.
"B-b-b-b-b-Billions! To black woman! Who was overweight! Fox said! BLAAAH" is not a strong post. 😆
@AverageJoe1 saidYou posted an article that does a very good job laying out the well know areas of government waste and fraud.
Whatever, So I guess before having what could be a good discusssion, you want tl challenge something 'I said', where you say that I said that there was no fraud there? Could you direct that to me, and I will toy with it.
Jesus
Isn't it weird the that DOGE does not touch those areas? Instead, focusing on areas of government that are not wasteful, according to your analysis?
It's almost as if doge isn't interested in trimming fat at all, instead pursuing ideological goals of purging areas of government that it doesn't like.
@spruce112358 saidRacist indeed for you to refer to her skin color. I didn’t. But back to the subject at hand? Her being interested with the $2 billion. Could you stick to that? Not aircraft carriers? Please? Why not? The $2B which includes money that sueann paid in taxes?
See, my posts are always very strong and accurate. 😆
If I had found "waste" in the government I would say: "On the aircraft carrier USS America, in 1984, they removed all the perfectly good brass fittings on the ship, dumped them over the side in Norfolk, and replaced them. The order was given because because they had to use up their budget for the year."
Like tha ...[text shortened]...
"B-b-b-b-b-Billions! To black woman! Who was overweight! Fox said! BLAAAH" is not a strong post. 😆
Why would you ignore the dilemma that she ran in? Millions of other people are put into with the loss of this $2 billion?
@wildgrass saidNo specifics.?
You posted an article that does a very good job laying out the well know areas of government waste and fraud.
Isn't it weird the that DOGE does not touch those areas? Instead, focusing on areas of government that are not wasteful, according to your analysis?
It's almost as if doge isn't interested in trimming fat at all, instead pursuing ideological goals of purging areas of government that it doesn't like.
@AverageJoe1
How did Stacey Abrams AOC and all of these politicians in Congress people get so rich? Stacy is living large on an average salary. You cannot answer this question.
Look up her net worth. But back to the subject . what about the $2 billion that Musk found FOUND.
@wildgrass saidYou and Susie (congratulations!) can simply not put forth your own opinions.
Read the article you originally posted.
Maybe you could try something like this…””It is horrible that the government would handover $2 billion to this one person , to dole out at her convenience to entities , to do with as they will.””
(you referred to her as black. I had not noticed her color.) (Sue she say you racist)
You see, this is the way that one opines in a debate. You and Marsuder would have a very difficult time on a stage debate..
It’s Ok, though, that you kids just cannot handle it. This was just a ploy by AvJoe to set you up for viewing.
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@AverageJoe1 saidMy opinion is that DOGE is BS. They have yet to document any instances of fraud, ignored many known areas of fraud, misinterpreted information on social security recipients, and completely botched the dollar numbers of spending cuts they are making. Most of it is also blatantly illegal and will be disallowed by the courts.
You and Susie (congratulations!) can simply not put forth your own opinions.
Maybe you could try something like this…””It is horrible that the government would handover $2 billion to this one person , to dole out at her convenience to entities , to do with as they will.””
(you referred to her as black. I had not noticed her color.) (Sue she say you racist)
You ...[text shortened]... ough, that you kids just cannot handle it. This was just a ploy by AvJoe to set you up for viewing.
Add to this what your article points out, that there are plenty of soft spots in federal spending that could be trimmed. Musk ignores all of it.
They're amateurs who have no clue what they're doing or how to do it.
@wildgrass saidDOGE itself is fraud and waste? 😆
My opinion is that DOGE is BS. They have yet to document any instances of fraud, ignored many known areas of fraud, misinterpreted information on social security recipients, and completely botched the dollar numbers of spending cuts they are making. Most of it is also blatantly illegal and will be disallowed by the courts.
Add to this what your article points out, that t ...[text shortened]... ed. Musk ignores all of it.
They're amateurs who have no clue what they're doing or how to do it.
Man, the right-wing heads are exploding all over... 😆
@AverageJoe1 saidOK ... 5 minutes Googling about the $2 billion just so that @AverageJoe1 will shut up about it forever. Here goes... what will we find?! ACTUAL WASTE?!?! This is so exciting... 😆
@AverageJoe1
How did Stacey Abrams AOC and all of these politicians in Congress people get so rich? Stacy is living large on an average salary. You cannot answer this question.
Look up her net worth. But back to the subject . what about the $2 billion that Musk found FOUND.
"According to usaspending.gov, a database of federal contracts and grants, a program named Power Forward Communities did receive a $2 billion federal grant in April 2024. The grant came from the Environmental Protection Agency's National Clean Investment Fund and was paid out to Power Forward Communities in full at the time of this writing. However, while Abrams is connected to that group, it is through an advisory role for one of its five founding organizations, a nonprofit called Rewiring America."
"Power Forward Communities is the first national program to finance home energy efficiency upgrades at scale, saving Americans thousands of dollars on their utility bills every year. Made up of a coalition of trusted national organizations, Power Forward Communities will help homeowners, developers, and renters swap outdated, inefficient appliances with more efficient and modernized options, saving money for years ahead and ensuring our kids can grow up with cleaner, pollutant-free air."
"Power Forward Communities is led by some of America’s most trusted organizations: United Way Worldwide, Habitat for Humanity International, Enterprise Community Partners, Rewiring America, and the Local Initiatives Support Corporation (LISC)."
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IN SUMMARY: Musk did not find an overweight black woman with billions of dollars stuffed in her pockets. Nossir.
What Musk found was a grant from the EPA given organizations like Habitat for Humanity (e.g. Jimmy Carter's old outfit) to encourage more efficient homes to reduce energy consumption and thereby reduce greenhouse gases! Whew! Stacy Abrams (who is in fact black) is on the board of one of the FIVE organizations that received money.
So now, @AverageJoe1, you have to "claw back" all your posts about "bill-y-ons and bill-y-ons of $$$" going to Stacy Abrams. 😆
Go on, claw those posts back.
Go on. We'll wait. 😆
BTW: Musk has yet to find any waste. But he is STILL LOOKING!!! 😆
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@spruce112358 saidAnyone following Spruce cherry pick smoke need only gloss over this quite negative take on what this is really all about. See liiiinnnnkk.
So now, @AverageJoe1, you have to "claw back" all your posts about "bill-y-ons and bill-y-ons of $$$" going to Stacy Abrams. 😆
Go on, claw those posts back.
Go on. We'll wait. 😆
BTW: Musk has yet to find any waste. But he is STILL LOOKING!!! 😆
Then, pick one. If it is all so squeaky clean, one wonders why it is all over in the news so much. And why there are so many different takes on it, witness this post.
Spruce in true lib form, together with the ubiquitous Sue, played’lets dance’ while I try to have an adult conversation with him. So I just I’m not gonna fool with this conversation anymore. He is a little bit late to finally send some kind of an answer, after I’d tried to have an adult conversation with him. No hard feelings.i will just send you this. Libs prefer links, because it keeps them at arms length during debates. Certainly understandable for a weak poster. He likely knew nothing about the gold bars, so I can understand it not being prepared for this discussion.
https://www.epa.gov/newsreleases/icymi-administrator-lee-zeldin-finds-gold-bars-epa-stacey-abrams-connected-group-biden
@spruce112358 saidWait til they hear about how much money the Republicans spent looking at hunter Bidens laptop over and over again, only to find the same set of nudie pics.
DOGE itself is fraud and waste? 😆
Man, the right-wing heads are exploding all over... 😆
@AverageJoe1 said@AverageJoe1, when get caught out, you get flustered and start to babble. Just sayin' 😆
Anyone following Spruce cherry pick smoke need only gloss over this quite negative take on what this is really all about. See liiiinnnnkk.
Then, pick one. If it is all so squeaky clean, one wonders why it is all over in the news so much. And why there are so many different takes on it, witness this post.
Spruce in true lib form, together with the ubiquitous Sue, ...[text shortened]... /newsreleases/icymi-administrator-lee-zeldin-finds-gold-bars-epa-stacey-abrams-connected-group-biden
@spruce112358 saidWhatever forget that. Did you we where Kmax said that the federal government should have given notice to the emplyees that 'we re coming to check on your work you have for last 24 hours? Do I have a duty to tell my staff at the office that they have to get their stories cooked up befre we come look at tyheir work? Jesus. What are we raising in the Forum. I hope Russ does not ask me for help, I am busy trying to help Trump, and also, help Biden with his Presidential Library!!
@AverageJoe1, when get caught out, you get flustered and start to babble. Just sayin' 😆