@Earl-of-Trumps saidSo government should use force against people in order to demonstrate a moral position and maybe save a few bucks ( though it's highly doubtful punitive "rehab" camps would be less costly than the voluntary programs you are screeching about)?
Government should actually use force to get these people into a *true* rehab.
Giving addicts the tools to enhance their addiction is morally repugnant.
My *opinion*
That's about as counter to basic libertarian principles as any political position could be.
@no1marauder saidIf the addicts are not held somewhat accountable for their situation, the drug problem will continue
So government should use force against people in order to demonstrate a moral position and maybe save a few bucks ( though it's highly doubtful punitive "rehab" camps would be less costly than the voluntary programs you are screeching about)?
That's about as counter to basic libertarian principles as any political position could be.
to grow like a blossoming mushroom and more lives will be lost.
Do you think that going through the rigid training in military boot camp makes you feel good? Ironically, in the end, it does.
All I can tell you is, "If you build it, they will come".
@Earl-of-Trumps saidMaybe we should build prison camps for people who have bad dietary habits, too; after all, that leads to health issues that affect "wallets", too.
If the addicts are not held somewhat accountable for their situation, the drug problem will continue
to grow like a blossoming mushroom and more lives will be lost.
Do you think that going through the rigid training in military boot camp makes you feel good? Ironically, in the end, it does.
All I can tell you is, "If you build it, they will come".
I'd like to hear a principled philosophical difference between the two.
@no1marauder saidDrugs v. cigarette smoking, drinking, vaping, diet.
Maybe we should build prison camps for people who have bad dietary habits, too; after all, that leads to health issues that affect "wallets", too.
I'd like to hear a principled philosophical difference between the two.
Interesting idea! start a thread, because this is way too big a table discussion to make a subthread out of.
BTW, @Suzianne correctly pointed out, 105,000 people died of opioid overdose in 2023, mostly from fentanyl.
The number of deaths grows each year. Still want to give them what they want??
What do you recommend we give kids addicted to alcohol and cigarettes?