New California?

California better not break up; it's my plan b if South Africa falls to pieces. Plus, who doesn't like California?

God.

It's sinking into the ocean with constant earthquakes and is either on continual fire or its one big mud slide.

Looks like Harvey Weinerstein and company done pissed him off.

Enjoy.

Originally posted by @sonhouse
If that was the case then Alaska and Texas MUST be also ungovernable so they should be sliced apart also.

Alaska? Huh? I didn't say land mass were the ONLY factor. Population, in fact, is a much bigger factor.

As for Texas, we've already heard rumblings about it splitting into multiple states. If that's what their people want, let them do it.

Originally posted by @ashiitaka
California better not break up; it's my plan b if South Africa falls to pieces. Plus, who doesn't like California?

I think the New California plan would help all Californians.

Originally posted by @sh76
Alaska? Huh? I didn't say land mass were the ONLY factor. Population, in fact, is a much bigger factor.

As for Texas, we've already heard rumblings about it splitting into multiple states. If that's what their people want, let them do it.

But those in centralized power will never let it happen.

Why would they give up that power?

Originally posted by @mott-the-hoople
"Why not let them have their state and let them run things they way they want?

Let the Blue states be blue and the red states be red. Why force either to be purple cuz that never will happen."

The US southern states would like an answer to that also.

Your optimism is unwarranted.

If California becomes six States it will have twelve Senators...

Originally posted by @sh76
There's something to the idea that California is too big to be governed as a state. It's country-sized in land area, population and economy. It also has some wild constitutional rules that require a referendum for many types of tax hikes and an unmanageable proposition process, which has led, ironically, to many hyper-conservative propositions passing (includi ...[text shortened]... into a bunch of medium-sized states would make sense for everyone in the state in the long run.

Obviously this is intended to give the Republicans an advantage in national politics. It's not about what's good for CA.

Originally posted by @sh76
Alaska? Huh? I didn't say land mass were the ONLY factor. Population, in fact, is a much bigger factor.

As for Texas, we've already heard rumblings about it splitting into multiple states. If that's what their people want, let them do it.

That's why the centers of Alaskan population should be different states from the rest of Alaska. Right? And the City of New York should be a different state then the rest of New York.

Maybe if we ever get that Article V Convention whodey is always raving about, we could redraw all the States - combining low population ones and breaking up large population ones - to get a more democratic system.

Originally posted by @no1marauder
Maybe if we ever get that Article V Convention whodey is always raving about, we could redraw all the States - combining low population ones and breaking up large population ones - to get a more democratic system.

Anarchist. 😠

Originally posted by @ashiitaka
California better not break up; it's my plan b if South Africa falls to pieces. Plus, who doesn't like California?

Alt right, gun toting, freedom splaining, article 4 thumping purists.

Just got back from California.

I don’t know what this whole new-Cal debate is about, but someone needs to get those bloody motorways repaved. It’s like driving around downtown bloody Damascus.

Originally posted by @athousandyoung
That's why the centers of Alaskan population should be different states from the rest of Alaska. Right? And the City of New York should be a different state then the rest of New York.

No need.

Alaska is clearly governable (even by Sarah Palin).

NY is close to as dysfunctional as California, but not quite as bad... yet.

Originally posted by @no1marauder
Maybe if we ever get that Article V Convention whodey is always raving about, we could redraw all the States - combining low population ones and breaking up large population ones - to get a more democratic system.

Old, rotten wine in new skins. But hey, whatever keeps the right-wing commentariat happy.