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https://www1.nyc.gov/site/doh/covid/covid-19-data.page
I was looking at different days and noticed something odd.
April 1....1436 hospitalization with 365 deaths
April 9.... 835 hospitalizations with 340 deaths
This is a 60 percent increase in the rates of death. What would account for that?
Quite the number of deaths compared to hospitalizations. The later numbers seem to have the same pattern.
From link
As of March 31, the NYC Health Department is now reporting the number of COVID-19 cases by diagnosis date, instead of report date.
So dates of hospitalization matches up with date, no lag.
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@eladar saidDeaths are a lagging indicator. Deaths are still high because the deaths these days are from infections that occurred a month ago.
April 12 is nice
5 hospitalizations, 195 deaths
That is nearly 40 deaths for each hospitalization.
Hospitalizations also lag, but maybe only by 2 weeks.
The decrease in hospitalizations these days (which has been dramatic) is a function of the reduction of infections in late March/early April that that social distancing measures taken in mid-late March caused. The dropoff in deaths may take another week or two as the small number of later March/early April infections will lead to fewer late April deaths.
There is no question that the number of infections has fallen, probably very dramatically.
@eladar saidThen it's a totally useless stat. Date of diagnosis is all but arbitrary.
They said they are putting deaths and hospitalization both on date diagnosed. All three categories are supposed to be talking about the same people.
It appears that on the 12th many are being diagnosed after death.
@eladar saidKeep in mind that data from recent days is incomplete.
@sh76
I agree, it seems to me that they are trying to cook the books to make things look as bad as possible for as ling as possible.
If things are falling as those graphs show, no matter how you count it, in a week or two there should be dramatic drops.
But yes, the drops should come based on dramatic decreases in daily new hospitalizations as reported in Cuomo’s daily pressers.
@eladar saidWhat your link actually says is:
They said they are putting deaths and hospitalization both on date diagnosed. All three categories are supposed to be talking about the same people.
It appears that on the 12th many are being diagnosed after death.
This chart shows the number of positive cases by diagnosis date, hospitalizations by admission date and deaths by date of death from COVID-19 on a daily basis since March 3.So, they are dating cases to when the patient went to their doctor for a test rather than when their results are reported by the laboratory. Either is a reasonable statistic. They report hospitalizations as being when the patient is hospitalized, this will be the same as the date of diagnosis if they are tested on that day, there is nothing strange in this. The date of death will only be the same as the other two if they are tested, hospitalized and die on the same day.
As of March 31, the NYC Health Department is now reporting the number of COVID-19 cases by diagnosis date, instead of report date. Diagnosis date is the date that someone went to their doctor and had a swab taken for testing. We were previously using the reported date of infection. Diagnosis date is more reflective of when people are getting sick and being tested.
Due to this change, case counts per day reported previously will not match current daily counts. Information about cases over the last week will be incomplete until the laboratories and hospitals report the results for people who were tested, which can take a few days to a week.
There will be a delay in reporting the death as a covid-19 death if death occurs before the infection is reported.
By contrast Public Health England are reporting total numbers of cases and hospitalized deaths known by the time they release the data on a daily basis.
@DeepThought
Explain this
April 12
5 hospitalizations, 195 deaths
That is nearly 40 deaths for each hospitalization.
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@eladar saidNo, they didn't. They said they were reporting the number of cases by diagnosis date.
They said they are putting deaths and hospitalization both on date diagnosed. All three categories are supposed to be talking about the same people.
It appears that on the 12th many are being diagnosed after death.
@no1marauder
Explain this
April 12
5 hospitalizations, 195 deaths
That is nearly 40 deaths for each hospitalization.
@eladar saidMaybe people didn't want to be admitted to a hospital on Easter Sunday if they could possibly avoid it.
@no1marauder
Explain this
April 12
5 hospitalizations, 195 deaths
That is nearly 40 deaths for each hospitalization.
The ones dying didn't have a choice.
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@no1marauder saidThey died and were labeled coronavirus for no particular reason.
Maybe people didn't want to be admitted to a hospital on Easter Sunday if they could possibly avoid it.
The ones dying didn't have a choice.