@wajoma saidWho's punishing innocent people?
I would not punish people that had nothing to do with it.
The police were warned a number of times about the gun club this nutcase belonged to. The existing NZ gun laws were sufficient to prevent the shooter being in possession of these weapons, but they were not acted on.
Do not blame innocent people, do not punish innocent people, do not paint all gun owners with the same brush, how many times do we hear that exact thing about muzzies.
I mean besides the shooter.
@kquinn909 saidActors?
Or hunt. When s*it really hits the fan you definitely need one to survive. Lotta bad actors gonna want what YOU have.
You think these people are in a movie?
My intent in making this thread was to show, again, that enacting gun control laws is not impossible. That if you have politicians that have the interest of their constituents in mind, this issue can be done in a week.
You need to stop debating the right wingers whether gun control works or not. You won't go anywhere with that. Like climate change, you waste time debating the issue when the issue has been settled already and you should have moved to the how already.
The only way to get anything done is to make taking NRA money a political suicide. To absolutely refuse to cast a vote for anyone bought by the NRA.
The US wants gun control. Even conservative americans want gun control. You are just flooded by NRA propaganda that makes it look the country is divided. It is not, not on this issue.
@zahlanzi saidThat the pollies need to prey on the suffering of the victims in this to ram through knee jerk legislation proves the opposite of what you're saying here zahlooney. If anything it proves the vile nature of the control freaks that before people have even been buried they need to rush this through because it can't stand the spot light of reasonable debate. (remember reasonable debate is not left whinger hack tv comedians and cracked magazine - your favourite sauces)
My intent in making this thread was to show, again, that enacting gun control laws is not impossible. That if you have politicians that have the interest of their constituents in mind, this issue can be done in a week.
You need to stop debating the right wingers whether gun control works or not. You won't go anywhere with that. Like climate change, you waste time debati ...[text shortened]... t flooded by NRA propaganda that makes it look the country is divided. It is not, not on this issue.
@wajoma saidStop your whining and answer one question.
That the pollies need to prey on the suffering of the victims in this to ram through knee jerk legislation proves the opposite of what you're saying here zahlooney. If anything it proves the vile nature of the control freaks that before people have even been buried they need to rush this through because it can't stand the spot light of reasonable debate. (remember reasonable debate is not left whinger hack tv comedians and cracked magazine - your favourite sauces)
How many people have to die before something is done?
How many?