08 Jul 08
The NHS is being sued for tens of millions of pounds in damages over bugs picked up in hospitals. Almost £7.5 million has already been paid out to more than 100 victims of the superbug MRSA and the Clostridium difficile (C-diff) infection. A backlog of hundreds more claims are yet to be settled.
Government-run health care? No thanks -- I'll take the quiet, clean room at the private hospital any day:
http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/feedarticle/7635450
08 Jul 08
Originally posted by der schwarze RitterYes because in a society relying on private health care there are no problems with multi-resistant bacterias.
The NHS is being sued for tens of millions of pounds in damages over bugs picked up in hospitals. Almost £7.5 million has already been paid out to more than 100 victims of the superbug MRSA and the Clostridium difficile (C-diff) infection. A backlog of hundreds more claims are yet to be settled.
Government-run health care? No thanks -- I'll ta ...[text shortened]... clean room at the private hospital any day:
http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/feedarticle/7635450
From Wiki :
Reports reflect a nationwide epidemic of MRSA in the US — one that has significantly increased over the past seven years. A 2007 report in Emerging Infectious Diseases, a publication of the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, estimated that the number of MRSA infections treated in hospitals doubled nationwide, from approximately 127,000 in 1999 to 278,000 in 2005, while at the same time deaths increased from 11,000 to more than 17,000.
You are predictably one-eyed as ever.
09 Jul 08
Originally posted by der schwarze Ritterit is a hospital, what do you expect? unless you close it every week and fumigate some bugs are bound to escape. sure it could be better, but why wouldn't provate hospitals have the same problem?
The NHS is being sued for tens of millions of pounds in damages over bugs picked up in hospitals. Almost £7.5 million has already been paid out to more than 100 victims of the superbug MRSA and the Clostridium difficile (C-diff) infection. A backlog of hundreds more claims are yet to be settled.
Government-run health care? No thanks -- I'll ta ...[text shortened]... clean room at the private hospital any day:
http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/feedarticle/7635450
09 Jul 08
Originally posted by der schwarze RitterOne has to pay twice in the UK. Once through taxation to support the drrty NHS hospitals and again to pay for private treatment in order to avoid secondary, and often fatal, infection. It's called socialism.
The NHS is being sued for tens of millions of pounds in damages over bugs picked up in hospitals. Almost £7.5 million has already been paid out to more than 100 victims of the superbug MRSA and the Clostridium difficile (C-diff) infection. A backlog of hundreds more claims are yet to be settled.
Government-run health care? No thanks -- I'll ta ...[text shortened]... clean room at the private hospital any day:
http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/feedarticle/7635450
09 Jul 08
Originally posted by mohoI thought the NHS forbid citizens from "topping off"? Apparently, if true, then the leaders want to spread the misery equally.
One has to pay twice in the UK. Once through taxation to support the drrty NHS hospitals and again to pay for private treatment in order to avoid secondary, and often fatal, infection. It's called socialism.
09 Jul 08
Originally posted by der schwarze RitterThat's about it although thay have had to eat humble pie and allow 'topping up' after a public outcry. The whole system is rotten and needs a radical overthaul.
I thought the NHS forbid citizens from "topping off"? Apparently, if true, then the leaders want to spread the misery equally.
09 Jul 08
Originally posted by der schwarze RitterFunnily enough, until they out-sourced (privatised) the cleaning of wards, there were very few Staphylococcus infections in NHS hospitals.
Because they have money and staff to clean them.
However, in non-NHS hospitals, the "superbug" is more common than in NHS hospitals; as can be clearly seen in the increase within US hospitals, for example.
Another reason for the increase of superbug related deaths (and illnesses) is an over-reliance on anti-biotics (using them too frequently).
So, nothing to do with socialism, the NHS, Bevin or health care for all.
10 Jul 08
Originally posted by shavixmirHey, DSR, why so quiet?
Funnily enough, until they out-sourced (privatised) the cleaning of wards, there were very few Staphylococcus infections in NHS hospitals.
However, in non-NHS hospitals, the "superbug" is more common than in NHS hospitals; as can be clearly seen in the increase within US hospitals, for example.
Another reason for the increase of superbug related de ...[text shortened]... too frequently).
So, nothing to do with socialism, the NHS, Bevin or health care for all.
10 Jul 08
Originally posted by shavixmirI haven't seen any figures that support your claim.
Funnily enough, until they out-sourced (privatised) the cleaning of wards, there were very few Staphylococcus infections in NHS hospitals.
However, in non-NHS hospitals, the "superbug" is more common than in NHS hospitals; as can be clearly seen in the increase within US hospitals, for example.
Another reason for the increase of superbug related de ...[text shortened]... too frequently).
So, nothing to do with socialism, the NHS, Bevin or health care for all.
10 Jul 08
Originally posted by der schwarze RitterFor example:
I haven't seen any figures that support your claim.
Others want to see a return to more stringent cleaning regimes within hospitals. The Government has put increasing pressure on hospitals to have cleaner wards, but some blame the move towards the contracting-out of cleaning services from the NHS, which began in the Eighties when responsibility for a clean ward was taken away from matrons.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/politics/2003/may/18/health.nhs
and:
The UK Office for National Statistics reported 1,629 MRSA-related deaths in England and Wales during 2005, indicating a MRSA-related mortality rate half the rate of that in the United States for 2005, even though the figures from the British source were explained to be high because of "improved levels of reporting, possibly brought about by the continued high public profile of the disease"[6] during the time of the 2005 United Kingdom General Election. MRSA is thought to have caused 1,652 deaths in 2006 in UK up from 51 in 1993[7] .
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MRSA