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If the courts can gut the Second Amendment as they've done in cities like Washington, D.C.; New York, Chicago and San Francisco, can they also gut the 13th Amendment ban on slavery?

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Originally posted by der schwarze Ritter
If the courts can gut the Second Amendment as they've done in cities like Washington, D.C.; New York, Chicago and San Francisco, can they also gut the 13th Amendment ban on slavery?
do you want slavery to return?

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Originally posted by der schwarze Ritter
If the courts can gut the Second Amendment as they've done in cities like Washington, D.C.; New York, Chicago and San Francisco, can they also gut the 13th Amendment ban on slavery?
"Courts" passed the local gun control laws in those cities??????

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Originally posted by mbakunin
do you want slavery to return?
Of course not -- I'm using the literary devise known as "hyperbole" to make my argument.

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Originally posted by der schwarze Ritter
Of course not -- I'm using the literary devise known as "hyperbole" to make my argument.
your argument is absurd. the meaning of the second amendment is disputed. the thirteenth amendment however, isn't (by sane people)

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Originally posted by der schwarze Ritter
If the courts can gut the Second Amendment as they've done in cities like Washington, D.C.; New York, Chicago and San Francisco, can they also gut the 13th Amendment ban on slavery?
I refuse to accept the premise of your argument

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Originally posted by der schwarze Ritter
If the courts can gut the Second Amendment as they've done in cities like Washington, D.C.; New York, Chicago and San Francisco, can they also gut the 13th Amendment ban on slavery?
I fear the courts can do anything nowadays--take weapons, take private property "for public good", whatever that means, so sure, nothing is off the table.

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Originally posted by PinkFloyd
I fear the courts can do anything nowadays--take weapons, take private property "for public good", whatever that means, so sure, nothing is off the table.
It means "for the good of the public". You may have met some of them.

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Originally posted by mbakunin
do you want slavery to return?
Bring it back? You need to read this:

http://rationalinternational.blogspot.com/2008/02/modern-slave-trade.html

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Originally posted by mbakunin
[b]the meaning of the second amendment is disputed.b]
What is there to dispute? "shall not be infringed" means "shall not be infringed".

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Originally posted by rookedpawn
What is there to dispute? "shall not be infringed" means "shall not be infringed".
what i mean by disputed is that not everyone agrees to it's relevance today, and that it doesn't necessarily mean that everyone should be allowed to have as many guns as they want.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Second_Amendment_to_the_United_States_Constitution#The_Second_Amendment_and_modern_politics

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convicted felons should wear anklets with stun guns triggerable by any citizen in the area, wirelessly.

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no minimum age. no insanity or moron defense.

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Isn't the purpose of a constitutional amendment to make the constitution maintain its relevance?
So, if an amendment is irrelevant, then what's wrong with doing away with it?
These US ammendments seem to be treated like holy texts - they must be maintained at all costs. I would've thought that the constitution and its amendments were simply useful working documents for a nation.

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Originally posted by der schwarze Ritter
If the courts can gut the Second Amendment as they've done in cities like Washington, D.C.; New York, Chicago and San Francisco, can they also gut the 13th Amendment ban on slavery?
Obviously no amendment is "safe".
Nothing is absolutely true and everything's truth is only comparable to the times in which they "are".

So, what was true and just 200 years ago could well be out-dated nowadays.