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No farms, no food, no future

No farms, no food, no future

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https://ec.europa.eu/eurostat/statistics-explained/SEPDF/cache/73319.pdf

in 2020, 3 percent of farms:

"were responsible for a majority (56.4 % ) of the EU’s total agricultural economic output; these farms can be characterised as being large agricultural enterprises."

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Is it too much to ask farmers not to pollute all the water ways to the point where no one can swim in lakes anymore?

What happens after farmers get everything they want regarding erasing the "regulation" of their industry? Pollution will get worse.




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Of course it's multifactorial. But the farmers demand for less environmental regulation is unreasonable considering all the damage they're doing to public spaces currently.



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You think maybe wastage has anything to do with it? It was estimated that around 70% of the edible food, either locally produced or imported is dumped. Seems like a very high figure. Plus there are practices by farmers which are designed to maintain high prices. This includes destroying crops, killing surplus animals etc.

Could be that if wasteful practices were not the norm there would be no need to some of the regulation you mentioned.

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There are some simple things that farmers can do to reduce fertilizer runoff without big impacts on profits. Government can incentivize that.

I'm not sure I understand you last point. Net zero fuel offsets seems silly but perhaps adds some flexibility to the farmer to choose how they want to reduce environmental impacts of their businesses?

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@Cliff-Mashburn said
Do you have any idea how much land a family would need to raise their own food for year around self-sufficiency? How much time and work it would require?
Do YOU grow your own food?
I've grown some of my own food in the past yes but now it's impossible, being a homeless bum.

And it doesn't require as land as you think, have you ever heard of urban farm? People in apartments with no 'land' creating space for food production. But for year round self sufficiently of course it's extremely difficult, and mass farming is needed but not at the damaging scale it's currently at.

In the end everything, whether it's farming or fishing or any other manufacturing, people are greedy and just want to make a profit. Something that if we're going to live on this planet for much longer needs to change.

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what not?

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The globalists used propaganda to get environmentalists to bite the hand that feeds them. The reasons they use to claim farmers are bad for the environment don't even make any sense. It is completely faith based.

People often get duped into supporting policies that are against their own interest. Now they want to pay more for food after bitching about inflation of food prices. I guess they are planning to eat bugs. You know, the same bugs they complain farmers are killing.

These are the same people who want to reduce CO2 emissions while letting their military increase them. You cannot expect them to think logically. They insist we must take action.......starting.......now. Oh, the military told us to F off. Couldn't make them. Still need to take action.........starting.....now!

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@A-Unique-Nickname said
I've grown some of my own food in the past yes but now it's impossible, being a homeless bum.

And it doesn't require as land as you think, have you ever heard of urban farm? People in apartments with no 'land' creating space for food production. But for year round self sufficiently of course it's extremely difficult, and mass farming is needed but not at the dam ...[text shortened]... make a profit. Something that if we're going to live on this planet for much longer needs to change.
In a rural area a garden may require fencing to keep out the deer unless you only grow garlic or something else deer do not like to eat. That is one of the upsides to urban farming. You don't have a deer problem in the city.

Fencing is expensive. Deer can jump a very high fence in the day time, but they don't at night when they usually raid your garden.

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