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Suzianne
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No, America is not seeing an unprecedented surge in immigration. New Census data prove it.

America is actually becoming less competitive for immigrant workers. We need to address the very real economic challenges caused by slowing population growth.

"According to the American Community Survey (the Census Bureau’s annual mini-census), the immigrant share of the U.S. population rose just 0.3 percentage points between July 2021 and July 2022, reaching 13.9%.

"If a shift of 0.3 percentage points can eradicate the United States as a country, the Trump administration must have left the United States in worse shape than anyone thought. Fortunately, it is the political rhetoric that is in worse shape, not the country.

"The immigrant population did grow by nearly a million from July 2021 to July 2022. But consider the context. In 2017, the Census predicted that by last year, the immigrant population would have grown by 3.6 million. In reality, it grew 1.7 million – less than half the number the models predicted.

"On a longer timescale, it is apparent that the past decade has seen unusually slow growth in immigration. In fact, the period from 2012 to 2022 saw slower growth in the immigrant share of the population than the 2000s, 1990s, 1980s and 1970s. You have to go all the way back to the 1960s, when the immigrant population actually shrank, to find a lower growth rate."

https://www.usatoday.com/story/opinion/2023/10/03/immigration-population-labor-shortage-us-census-predictions/70964343007/

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@suzianne said
No, America is not seeing an unprecedented surge in immigration. New Census data prove it.

America is actually becoming less competitive for immigrant workers. We need to address the very real economic challenges caused by slowing population growth.

"According to the American Community Survey (the Census Bureau’s annual mini-census), the immigrant share o ...[text shortened]... om/story/opinion/2023/10/03/immigration-population-labor-shortage-us-census-predictions/70964343007/
LMFAO.@sluzane

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3 million people coming across the border THAT WE KNOW OF and some bag of crud says there's no surge.
Idiocy.
How many of these undocumented people are even being counted by the "mini-census"?

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@jj-adams said
3 million people coming across the border THAT WE KNOW OF and some bag of crud says there's no surge.
Idiocy.
It would be refreshing if people, such as Suzianne with her incessant off-the-wall links, would write on a debate forum What They Think. Geez.
I'll try again.
Suzianne, we have 240 Thousand people entering our country monthly. Note BTW that lib reporting is all from the point of view of the immigrant. Our point of view sees a big problem with all these people. We think 8000 a month makes more sense.
What would you suggest? Please don't refer to your link, what do you think.....how many?

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@jj-adams said
3 million people coming across the border THAT WE KNOW OF and some bag of crud says there's no surge.
Idiocy.
How many of these undocumented people are even being counted by the "mini-census"?
Do you know what a liar is?

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@averagejoe1 said
It would be refreshing if people, such as Suzianne with her incessant off-the-wall links, would write on a debate forum What They Think. Geez.
I'll try again.
Suzianne, we have 240 Thousand people entering our country monthly. Note BTW that lib reporting is all from the point of view of the immigrant. Our point of view sees a big problem with all these people. We ...[text shortened]... nse.
What would you suggest? Please don't refer to your link, what do you think.....how many?
How about you, Joe?

Do you know what a liar is?

Mott The Hoople

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@suzianne said
How about you, Joe?

Do you know what a liar is?
not only know what a liar is, I know what a lying idiot is...you are pitiful

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@mott-the-hoople said
not only know what a liar is, I know what a lying idiot is...you are pitiful
Talking to yourself in the mirror again?

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Because I’m too lazy to look at the sources, here’s a summary on Wiki: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Illegal_immigration_to_the_United_States

And it’s quite interesting:

The illegal immigrant population of the United States peaked by 2007, when it was at 12.2 million and 4% of the total U.S. population. Estimates in 2016 put the number of unauthorized immigrants at 10.7 million, representing 3.3% of the total U.S. population. Since the Great Recession, more illegal immigrants have left the United States than entered it, and illegal border crossings were at the lowest in decades until 2021, when a record of 1.7 million people were caught trying to cross the southern border illegally.

Since 2007, visa overstays have accounted for a larger share of the growth in the illegal immigrant population than illegal border crossings, which have declined considerably from 2000 to 2018.

Research shows that illegal immigrants increase the size of the U.S. economy, contribute to economic growth, enhance the welfare of natives, contribute more in tax revenue than they collect, reduce American firms' incentives to offshore jobs and import foreign-produced goods, and benefit consumers by reducing the prices of goods and services.


So, border crossings have gone up since last year, border crossings are not the major source of people being in the US without a visa and seemingly having all these people is very good for the US economy.

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