http://www.mcil.org/mcil/mcil/ndy.htm
"Not Dead Yet is a national disability rights group which opposes the legalization of assisted suicide and euthanasia, because of the lethal danger to this nation's largest minority group, people with disabilities.
Since 1983, many people with disabilities have opposed "right-to-die" proponents who have advocated that people with severe disabilities should receive suicide assistance, not suicide prevention. Our opposition was ignored, and many people with disabilities have already died as a result.
No proposed law authorizing physician-assisted suicide applies to all citizens equally, but singles out individuals based on their health status in violation of the Americans with Disabilities Act. Current trends in managed care and health care rationing have already reduced and threaten to further diminish the availability of health care and related services needed by people with disabilities."
"It's the ultimate form of discrimination to offer people with disabilities help to die without having offered real options to live."
-Diane Coleman,
founder of Not Dead Yet
http://www.mcil.org/mcil/mcil/ndy.htm
It is a disgrace to call people who warn for unwanted (?) developments in the field of euthanasia,
like the disabled people of "Not Dead Yet", "Chicken Littles" like BBarr or even "right wing Chicken Littles" by No1Marauder.
This type of namecalling has no place in serious discussions about matters of life and death.
Originally posted by ivanhoeYes.
Not Dead Yet is a national disability rights group which opposes the legalization of assisted suicide and euthanasia, because of the lethal danger to this nation's largest minority group, people with disabilities.
Since 1983, many people with disabilities have opposed "right-to-die" proponents who have advocated that people with severe disabilities s ...[text shortened]... die without having offered real options to live."
-Diane Coleman,
founder of Not Dead Yet
And just how many options are you going to offer someone who's been in a coma for 15 years? A GAME OF MONOPOLY TO CHEER HER UP???
Obviously euthenasia has to be judged so that misuse of the rule is kept to a minimum, but sometimes....just sometimes....it's so bloody clear-cut that...
Ach...
what the hell do I care?
Originally posted by shavixmirIs the case really that clear cut ? You want to believe it is .....
Yes.
And just how many options are you going to offer someone who's been in a coma for 15 years? A GAME OF MONOPOLY TO CHEER HER UP???
Obviously euthenasia has to be judged so that misuse of the rule is kept to a minimum, but sometim ...[text shortened]... so bloody clear-cut that...
Ach...
what the hell do I care?
Do you think it is appropiate to call people who warn against certain developments, like the people of
"Not Dead Yet", names like the ones Bbarr and No1 are using ?
Originally posted by ivanhoeSo did you start this thread to discuss right to life issues or to whine about Bbarr and No1?
Is the case really that clear cut ? You want to believe it is .....
Do you think it is appropiate to call people who warn against certain developments, like the people of "Not Dead Yet" names like the ones Bbarr and No1 are using ?
Originally posted by ivanhoeYes. I'll call them any bloody thing I want.
Is the case really that clear cut ? You want to believe it is .....
Do you think it is appropiate to call people who warn against certain developments, like the people of
"Not Dead Yet", names like the ones Bbarr and No1 are using ?
Originally posted by ivanhoeWhen you start engaging in serious discussion, I'll treat you with the respect owed to one who engages in serious discussion. As long as you continue refusing to defend your positions on these matters, avoiding questions and objections, and fleeing from any actual debate, you'll get nothing more than lampooned. I have no idea why No1 stoops to treating your allegations with even a modicum of respect.
It is a disgrace to call people who warn for unwanted (?) developments in the field of euthanasia,
like the disabled people of "Not Dead Yet", "Chicken Littles" like BBarr or even "right wing Chicken Littles" by No1Marauder.
This type of namecalling has no place in serious discussions about matters of life and death.
Originally posted by bbarrWhat you want Bbarr is that I do as you seem fit. In fact I have to obey you. I have to meet your criteria and demands. Then and only then I am worthy of your respect. Please, take your blackmail elsewhere. You are being controlling and domineering .... as usual.
When you start engaging in serious discussion, I'll treat you with the respect owed to one who engages in serious discussion. As long as you continue refusing to defend your positions on these matters, avoiding questions and objections, and ...[text shortened]... ops to treating your allegations with even a modicum of respect.
Originally posted by ivanhoeDo you dare to defy me? 😲
What you want Bbarr is that I do as you seem fit. In fact I have to obey you. I have to meet your criteria and demands. Then and only then I am worthy of your respect. Please, take your blackmail elsewhere. You are being controlling and domineering .... as usual.
My criteria for debate are just the criteria for debate, as many folk in these threads have been trying (unsuccessfully) to point out to you. I'm not trying to control, you Ivanhoe. I actually find your posts quite amusing. I am trying to inform you that if you want to be treated with respect in the debate forum, you should try and actually engage in debate.
Cheers!
Originally posted by bbarrBBarr: "My criteria for debate are just the criteria for debate"
Do you dare to defy me? 😲
My criteria for debate are just the criteria for debate, as many folk in these threads have been trying (unsuccessfully) to point out to you. I'm not trying to control, you Ivanhoe. I actually find your posts quite amusing. I am trying to inform you that if you want to be treated with respect in the debate forum, you should try and actually engage in debate.
Cheers!
Whose posts are amusing, you said ? 😀
