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  1. Behind the scenes
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    23 Sep '16 14:371 edit
    Leaving the world of politics for a bit, here is a discussion of the possible number of moves in a game of chess by 2 different mathematicians. Which one seems more accurate? Sorry about the small sales pitch at the end (it doesn't last long)

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  2. Joined
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    23 Sep '16 14:421 edit
    That's it!

    Hillary and Trump should play a game of chess, live on TV!

    Everything revolves around Hillary and Trump.
  3. Behind the scenes
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    23 Sep '16 14:56
    Originally posted by whodey
    That's it!

    Hillary and Trump should play a game of chess, live on TV!

    Everything revolves around Hillary and Trump.
    Everything revolves around Hillary and Trump

    I do hope you're trying to be funny. The royal game is so far above Hillary and Trump, they shouldn't be mentioned in the same sentence. Chess will be around when these two are tiny footnotes in world history.
  4. Germany
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    23 Sep '16 15:11
    Originally posted by whodey
    That's it!

    Hillary and Trump should play a game of chess, live on TV!

    Everything revolves around Hillary and Trump.
    Clinton - Trump

    1. e4 a6
    2. Bc4 a5
    3. Qh5 a4
    4. Qxf7#

    Trump claims victory and denies the match ever took place.
  5. Cape Town
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    23 Sep '16 15:17
    Originally posted by mchill
    Leaving the world of politics for a bit, here is a discussion of the possible number of moves in a game of chess by 2 different mathematicians. Which one seems more accurate? Sorry about the small sales pitch at the end (it doesn't last long)

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Km024eldY1A
    If you payed attention, they are both estimates and they make different assumptions. So the accuracy depends on what you are estimating. The larger estimate is more accurate for the number of theoretically possible games and the smaller number is more accurate for the number of more reasonable games.
  6. Cape Town
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    23 Sep '16 15:22
    Originally posted by KazetNagorra
    Clinton - Trump
    1. e4 a6
    2. Bc4 a5
    3. Qh5

    Trump announces he will build a wall across the board. His supporters go wild. Trump announces that he doesn't play chess with women, and walks out. His supporters say the game was rigged from the beginning.
    The chess game is covered by every media outlet in the world despite only having 3 moves and being well on the way to fools mate.
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    23 Sep '16 15:33
    Originally posted by mchill
    Everything revolves around Hillary and Trump

    I do hope you're trying to be funny. The royal game is so far above Hillary and Trump, they shouldn't be mentioned in the same sentence. Chess will be around when these two are tiny footnotes in world history.
    Nope, all that matters is the US election.

    Sorry chap.
  8. Behind the scenes
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    23 Sep '16 15:40
    Originally posted by twhitehead
    If you payed attention, they are both estimates and they make different assumptions. So the accuracy depends on what you are estimating. The larger estimate is more accurate for the number of theoretically possible games and the smaller number is more accurate for the number of more reasonable games.
    I wasn't trying to draw a conclusion here, just wondering what figure you thought to be more accurate.
  9. Zugzwang
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    23 Sep '16 19:481 edit
    Originally posted by mchill to Whodey
    Everything revolves around Hillary and Trump

    I do hope you're trying to be funny. The royal game is so far above Hillary and Trump, they shouldn't be mentioned in the same sentence.
    Chess will be around when these two are tiny footnotes in world history.
    As I already mentioned, GM Pal Benko said that Donald Trump once told him that if he
    were to study chess for two years, then Donald Trump expected to become a grandmaster.
    Some of Donald Trump's supporters here seem to regard that as a reasonable claim.

    I don't know that Hillary Clinton ever has boasted about her chess talent. In her case,
    others' expectations of her chess would be lower because she's a woman. (sarcasm)
  10. Zugzwang
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    23 Sep '16 22:33
    Originally posted by twhitehead to KazetNagorra
    1. e4 a6
    2. Bc4 a5
    3. Qh5

    Trump announces he will build a wall across the board. His supporters go wild. Trump announces that he doesn't play chess with women, and walks out. His supporters say the game was rigged from the beginning.
    The chess game is covered by every media outlet in the world despite only having 3 moves and being well on the way to fools mate.
    If I had to speculate, based upon his personality, about his chess style, I suspect that
    Donald Trump would be an extremely impulsive aggressive tactical player who ignored
    longer term positional considerations and was too lazy to study endgame technique.

    Donald Trump might well like a simplistic opening such as the Stonewall Attack (which
    was recommended in an old American beginners' book by I.A. Horowitz).

    Donald Trump might reject algebraic notation in favor of English descriptive notation on
    the grounds that the word 'algebra' is derived from Arabic, a sign of an Islamist conspiracy.
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