Originally posted by der schwarze Ritter* a crime that undermines the offender's government
According to many dictionaries, treason can be defined as:
* a crime that undermines the offender's government
* disloyalty by virtue of subversive behavior
* treachery: an act of deliberate betrayal
Therefore, I think Obama's actions are treasonous.
Certainly Obama is within his rights to express his opinion, however, he's not the cu oreover, what if the Iraqi leaders follow Obama's advice and then John McCain gets elected?
No crime was committed.
* disloyalty by virtue of subversive behavior
1) Disloyalty to a president does not constitute disloyalty to your country.
2) Regardless of any argument of disloyalty, his actions were not certainly not subversive.
For the record, subversive is defined by the American Heritage as:
tending to subvert or advocating subversion, esp. in an attempt to overthrow or cause the destruction of an established or legally constituted government.
* treachery: an act of deliberate betrayal
Obviously it was not an act of treachery as viewed through NON-neocon eyes which is why this ridiculous claim only gets traction in the neo-con blogosphere.
Originally posted by der schwarze RitterTreason in the US is defined in the US Constitution, not in dictionaries. Try reading it some time.
According to many dictionaries, treason can be defined as:
* a crime that undermines the offender's government
* disloyalty by virtue of subversive behavior
* treachery: an act of deliberate betrayal
Therefore, I think Obama's actions are treasonous.
Certainly Obama is within his rights to express his opinion, however, he's not the cu ...[text shortened]... oreover, what if the Iraqi leaders follow Obama's advice and then John McCain gets elected?
Sending supposed "mixed signals" to friendly governments is hardly treason.
Originally posted by der schwarze RitterAccording to my constitution, only Congress can declare war. All of these little adventures overseas during the past 60 or so years are unconstitutional, including Bush's in Iraq.
According to many dictionaries, treason can be defined as:
* a crime that undermines the offender's government
* disloyalty by virtue of subversive behavior
* treachery: an act of deliberate betrayal
Therefore, I think Obama's actions are treasonous.
Certainly Obama is within his rights to express his opinion, however, he's not the cu oreover, what if the Iraqi leaders follow Obama's advice and then John McCain gets elected?
Bush and Cheney should be tried for treason first, for outing a CIA operative, and for war crimes in invading Iraq.
Originally posted by der schwarze RitterBy advocating the murder of a United States Senator, you are undermining the United States, you should be put on trial for treason.
According to many dictionaries, treason can be defined as:
* a crime that undermines the offender's government
* disloyalty by virtue of subversive behavior
* treachery: an act of deliberate betrayal
Therefore, I think Obama's actions are treasonous.
Certainly Obama is within his rights to express his opinion, however, he's not the cu ...[text shortened]... oreover, what if the Iraqi leaders follow Obama's advice and then John McCain gets elected?