12 Feb 08
Originally posted by murrowAny loss McCain suffers from conservatives who refuse to vote for him, myself included, will be made up Democratic moderates that won't vote for a liberal like Obama and independents of which I think McCain will get the majority. Finally, enough conservatives will vote for McCain because they will hope he turns out better than either Hillary or Obama.
Looking very likely.
It'll be a scramble for the middle and McCain will lose because right-wing republicans won't bother to vote.
Thats my opinion ...
12 Feb 08
Originally posted by SMSBear716Do you honestly think Obama is going to turn off moderates? Dream on.
Any loss McCain suffers from conservatives who refuse to vote for him, myself included, will be made up Democratic moderates that won't vote for a liberal like Obama and independents of which I think McCain will get the majority. Finally, enough conservatives will vote for McCain because they will hope he turns out better than either Hillary or Obama.
Thats my opinion ...
12 Feb 08
Originally posted by rwingettAll the independents I know like Obama most. I'm really surprised at some of these people. A few of them were firmly in the Bush evangelical camp just four years ago. The age and income range of these people is all over the board too. I agree with you; unless he makes some major goofs, I don't see Obama losing to McCain in the general election.
Do you honestly think Obama is going to turn off moderates? Dream on.
12 Feb 08
Originally posted by SMSBear716Here's an independent who will choose either Democrat over McCain, and I like McCain.
Any loss McCain suffers from conservatives who refuse to vote for him, myself included, will be made up Democratic moderates that won't vote for a liberal like Obama and independents of which I think McCain will get the majority. Finally, enough conservatives will vote for McCain because they will hope he turns out better than either Hillary or Obama.
Thats my opinion ...
I just realized; if I voted like some of the kids I work with say they'd vote, I should vote for McCain because he has an Irish name. At least some of them want to vote for Obama because he's Black and so are they.
But then one likes Huckabee because he's a "priest". That noble young man is now in 2nd grade.
12 Feb 08
Originally posted by der schwarze Ritterbring on the socialism, I like it😵
I'm not sure which is worse for America, either of the two Socialist candidates, or the socialism-lite candidate with the crazy temper and the problem with adultery:
http://www.newswithviews.com/baldwin/baldwin426.htm?S=7840090&nav=menu227_2
12 Feb 08
Originally posted by uzlessLook at who ran for the nominations this year:
This is America...This is a black man vs a white man. Who do you think will win?
I really do hope times have changed down there but...time will tell, because, really there isn't much difference ideologically speaking between the two of them.
A minister
A black man
A woman
A mormon
A vietnam vet who spent 5 years in a cage
etc.
This is what America is, no? Where else in the world will you find such a rainbow of candidates from all sides of the political and social spectra?
What do we get in Canada? Middle of the road, plain-as-oatmeal, lame duck white men all. Nobody here cares. Right now, Americans are engaged and excited about this election and I am too. I wish Canadian politics would take a lesson from the Americans this time around and get people involved.
12 Feb 08
Originally posted by rwingettYes, don't you? He has the most liberal voting record in the Senate for 2007. If I were a moderate, it turn me off.
Do you honestly think Obama is going to turn off moderates? Dream on.
Besides, how far can his 'Rodney king', can't we all campaign get against serious scrutiny ? So far he has had a free ride because right now, its all focused on beating up the Clintos'. The conservatives, Moveon.org, environmental whackos are all piling on.
And if it comes down to a brokered convention for the Dems, both are going to get bloodied in the open warfare that we can hope happens.
12 Feb 08
Originally posted by darvlayThat's funny you mention fascism since the Left have so much more in common with it than the Right:
You speak for your entire country or just the ones in jackboots?
http://www.humanevents.com/article.php?id=24974
http://www.amazon.com/Liberal-Fascism-American-Mussolini-Politics/dp/0385511841
Originally posted by der schwarze RitterDon't care about left and right; worry about your own opinions:
That's funny you mention fascism since the Left have so much more in common with it than the Right:
http://www.humanevents.com/article.php?id=24974
http://www.amazon.com/Liberal-Fascism-American-Mussolini-Politics/dp/0385511841
"...you shouldn't reside in America because those values are alien to the this country and to the spirit of free men everywhere."
That's the talk of a proper prick.
12 Feb 08
Originally posted by rwingettI agree with you, the only thing about Obama I know he stands for
Do you honestly think Obama is going to turn off moderates? Dream on.
are driver licenses for illegal aliens, and ending the war soon. Beyond
that I'm not sure what he stands for, he is a great speaker, but he
does not reveal much in his speeches about exactly what he will do
and how, we get a very basic high level warm and fuzzy about what he
is for without getting specific. Compare that to HillBilly ranting about
this that and the other thing it is a nice change of pace I have to
admit.
Kelly