11 Oct 08
Originally posted by mrstabbyOn Fox overnight the were replaying ad nauseum McCain hosing down his troops booing him for suggesting that Obama would be all right as a president. Is Macca getting the volk ready for the inevitable?
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopics/uselection2008/barackobama/3179575/Barack-Obama-would-offer-John-McCain-a-job-is-he-wins-the-US-election.html
Veeeeeery interesting. Any thoughts on this?
12 Oct 08
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They both are intelligent, capable and respectable men despite the absurd claims by their oppontent's zealous supporters.
It is the first election since my first I was eligible that I felt both candidates were respectable and worthy candidates (remember, Lincoln had only 2 years experience on a national scale when he was elected president).
That said, I would like to start seeing candidates jump the political fence. Party politics is nothing more than factions within a government. These 2 men I think are capable of going beyond that and that says a lot. I firmly believe both are above their parties agenda which is difficult to see during an election.
12 Oct 08
Originally posted by minutiae70Speaking of Lincoln, he brought in advisers who despised him- but he knew them to be capable- and I believe his presidency has been proven to be successful over time.
They both are intelligent, capable and respectable men despite the absurd claims by their oppontent's zealous supporters.
It is the first election since my first I was eligible that I felt both candidates were respectable and worthy candidates (remember, Lincoln had only 2 years experience on a national scale when he was elected president).
That s ...[text shortened]... irmly believe both are above their parties agenda which is difficult to see during an election.
12 Oct 08
Originally posted by searcy1977Lincoln was a terrible president: he brought the country a disastrous civil war (700,000 dead, major cities burned to the ground, etc.) and instituted an illegal federal income tax, which we still have today. Sic semper evello mortem Tyrannis!
Speaking of Lincoln, he brought in advisers who despised him- but he knew them to be capable- and I believe his presidency has been proven to be successful over time.
13 Oct 08
Originally posted by der schwarze RitterThat war ended outright slavery in the USA. Would you rather they kept the slaves?
Lincoln was a terrible president: he brought the country a disastrous civil war (700,000 dead, major cities burned to the ground, etc.) and instituted an illegal federal income tax, which we still have today. Sic semper evello mortem Tyrannis!
13 Oct 08
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Originally posted by der schwarze RitterYou really should read a history book not written by revisionist Dixie supporters. The Southern States that attempted to illegally secede from the Union brought the country the Civil War and a number of them seceded before Lincoln even became President. As for the "illegal federal income tax which we still have today", it was repealed in 1871 (and it was never found to have been illegal). http://www.history.com/this-day-in-history.do?action=Article&id=50716
Lincoln was a terrible president: he brought the country a disastrous civil war (700,000 dead, major cities burned to the ground, etc.) and instituted an illegal federal income tax, which we still have today. Sic semper evello mortem Tyrannis!
13 Oct 08
Originally posted by der schwarze RitterI really think that you are kidding about all of the venom that you state here. that the joke is on us. You're getting some kind of rush from dragging us along. Certainly such absurdities couldn't be stated by a rationale human being? Or maybe that is the issue?
Good -- then McCain can be head of Vichy America.
13 Oct 08
Originally posted by badmoonYou really are new to these parts (the Debate forum), aren't you?
I really think that you are kidding about all of the venom that you state here. that the joke is on us. You're getting some kind of rush from dragging us along. Certainly such absurdities couldn't be stated by a rationale human being? Or maybe that is the issue?