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13 Sep 12
From a friend:
I was just told this story and I wanted to share it. You may share it around too. -- Roxanne
"My two year old, Zoe, was born with a congenital heart defect -- the most common birth defect affecting one in every 100 babies born. Fifteen hours after Zoe's birth, she underwent her first open heart surgery. Her second open heart surgery took place four months later, and by the age of six months, Zoe was already halfway toward her lifetime cap on health insurance at which point her coverage would disappear.
Then I got a letter from our insurance company telling us that Zoe's lifetime cap had been removed, thanks to Obamacare. It meant she could continue getting the care and future surgeries she needs to survive.
So when Governor Romney says he'll repeal Obamacare and "kill it dead" on Day One as president, that terrifies me, and I think about it every day. It would have devastating consequences for my family, and countless other families." --Stacey Lihn
13 Sep 12
Originally posted by KunsooThe cold hearted reality is that money is a finite resourse and if we use it here we cannot use it somewhere else like schools, mass transit etc. People cannot get unlimited medical care. I do not know how much this life saving procedure cost... Maybe this kid got a million dollars and maybe you think it is ok. What if the next generation of life saving technique cost 10 million dollars or 100 million dollars or a billion dollars or a trillion dollars or a quadrillion dollars or as much money as there is in the universe? At some point the government has to say that this procedure is extraordinary and if you want it you have to pay for it yourself because the government cannot.
From a friend:
I was just told this story and I wanted to share it. You may share it around too. -- Roxanne
"My two year old, Zoe, was born with a congenital heart defect -- the most common birth defect affecting one in every 100 babies born. Fifteen hours after Zoe's birth, she underwent her first open heart surgery. Her second open heart surgery too ...[text shortened]... devastating consequences for my family, and countless other families." --Stacey Lihn
13 Sep 12
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Originally posted by quackquackMoney's not a finite resource. The only reason it's finite is because rich people are actively suppressing the economy by starving it of funds.
The cold hearted reality is that money is a finite resourse and if we use it here we cannot use it somewhere else like schools, mass transit etc. People cannot get unlimited medical care. I do not know how much this life saving procedure cost... Maybe this kid got a million dollars and maybe you think it is ok. What if the next generation of life sa ...[text shortened]... extraordinary and if you want it you have to pay for it yourself because the government cannot.
Show me the doctor that will charge more money than exists. 🙄
13 Sep 12
Originally posted by AThousandYoungDoctor need to get paid. They are talented and work hard. The idea that society won't adequatedly compenstae them and simply expect them to save lives may actually be more ridiculous than the idea that government should any medical bill regardless of its size.
Money's not a finite resource. The only reason it's finite is because rich people are actively suppressing the economy by starving it of funds.
Show me the doctor that will charge more money than exists. 🙄
13 Sep 12
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Originally posted by quackquackThen pimpslap Paris Hilton and take her jewelled nipple rings or whatever.
Doctor need to get paid. They are talented and work hard. The idea that society won't adequatedly compenstae them and simply expect them to save lives may actually be more ridiculous than the idea that government should any medical bill regardless of its size.
We can slap around Oprah's kids too.
13 Sep 12
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Originally posted by quackquackDo you realize how rich Oprah is?
You are right we can pay for everything we want -- regardless of cost -- by physically abusing Oprah's children.
These people are rich nearly beyond the comprehension of normal people like you and I.
And if Oprah's children are playing games with the economy and ruining the lives of the rest of us they make themselves legitimate targets.
13 Sep 12
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Originally posted by quackquackStep back for a second and think: what was money created for? It has no intrinsic value in and of itself. If money is being used to buy credit default swaps and not for a surgery that will save a kid's life, then our priorities are screwed up.
The cold hearted reality is that money is a finite resourse and if we use it here we cannot use it somewhere else like schools, mass transit etc. People cannot get unlimited medical care. I do not know how much this life saving procedure cost... Maybe this kid got a million dollars and maybe you think it is ok. What if the next generation of life sa ...[text shortened]... extraordinary and if you want it you have to pay for it yourself because the government cannot.
For that matter, what were human societies formed for? So someone's kid could die while someone else's kid lived in luxury?
Again first principles.
13 Sep 12
Originally posted by AThousandYoungAre you advocating violence against people who you perceive as wealthy?
Do you realize how rich Oprah is?
These people are rich nearly beyond the comprehension of normal people like you and I.
And if Oprah's children are playing games with the economy and ruining the lives of the rest of us they make themselves legitimate targets.
First you say Opera's children should be slapped around and now you say they are legitimate targets. I often feel that many have a deep and irrational hatred of wealth but most don't advocate physical violence.
13 Sep 12
Originally posted by quackquackPhysical violence is an appropriate response to some actions, and the wealth of the rich is enforced by government violence.
Are you advocating violence against people who you perceive as wealthy?
First you say Opera's children should be slapped around and now you say they are legitimate targets. I often feel that many have a deep and irrational hatred of wealth but most don't advocate physical violence.
13 Sep 12
Originally posted by no1marauderNone of what you said addresses the issue that govenrment cannot pay for everything. Perhaps we as a scoeity we need to decide if we want to have 200 more teachers or one heroic effort for a child who may still need many more.
Step back for a second and think: what was money created for? It has no intrinsic value in and of itself. If money is being used to buy credit default swaps and not for a surgery that will save a kid's life, then our priorities are screwed up.
For that matter, what were human societies formed for? So someone's kid could die while someone else's kid lived in luxury?
Again first principles.
13 Sep 12
Originally posted by quackquackI don't implement them.
If you tried to implement your ideas you would most certainly (and justifiably)be incarcerated.
Modern crime organizations are acculturated to prison. They exist simultaneously inside and outside. Putting an individual behind bars doesn't prevent his people from controlling the streets.