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  1. Standard member vivify
    rain
    01 Nov '13 17:48 / 1 edit
    http://www.latimes.com/local/la-me-cap-healthcare-20131031,0,1593415.column#axzz2jPtnvod3

    The Obamacare rollout in California has been bumpy, but it's running much more smoothly here than in most of America. And for that, we can thank former Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger.

    Gov. Jerry Brown deserves kudos, too. But it was Schwarzenegger who leapt in and became the nation's first governor to embrace the federal Affordable Care Act and begin planning to implement the ambitious program.

    "The Republican governor who preceded us jumped early and we accepted the baton that he tossed," says Diana Dooley, Brown's secretary of the Health and Human Services Agency. She also chairs the board for Covered California, the insurance exchange that operates Obamacare in the state.

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    Schwarzenegger gets blamed for many mess-ups and there's no sense in reciting them here, except for one. That was his failed attempt to enact universal healthcare in California. But that failure has led to a relatively successful rollout of Obamacare in this state.

    The champion bodybuilder and Hollywood action hero was always thinking big, searching for a "fantastic" program to enact. And in 2007, he embarked on a year-long crusade to create universal healthcare as a legacy.

    Schwarzenegger borrowed from a program enacted in Massachusetts by then-Gov. Mitt Romney — the same Mitt Romney who, as the 2012 Republican presidential nominee, repeatedly attacked President Obama for his similar healthcare act.

    Proof that Obamacare would be so much smoother if not for Republicans being so focused on attacking and destroying Obama, instead of working on ways to improve life for Americans.
  2. 01 Nov '13 18:18
    It seems to be working great for the those working in the sex trade.

    http://newsbusters.org/blogs/noel-sheppard/2013/11/01/healthy-hos-party-obamacare-registration-drive-prostitutes#ixzz2jPS9K3pI

    Just the kind of people democrats would like the US to become.
  3. Subscriber AThousandYoung
    Poor Filipov :,(
    01 Nov '13 18:21
    Cali represent

    Beach Boys - California
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=taHgekKGk88
  4. Standard member vivify
    rain
    01 Nov '13 18:34 / 3 edits
    Originally posted by Eladar
    It seems to be working great for the those working in the sex trade.

    http://newsbusters.org/blogs/noel-sheppard/2013/11/01/healthy-hos-party-obamacare-registration-drive-prostitutes#ixzz2jPS9K3pI

    So even you agree Obamacare's working. Cool.

    So the GOP cost Americans 27 billion dollars shutting down the government for nothing. The sooner the GOP disapears, the better our country will be.
  5. 01 Nov '13 18:35
    Originally posted by vivify
    So even you agree Obamacare's working. Cool.

    So the GOP cost Americans 27 billion dollars shutting down the government for nothing. The sooner the GOP disapears, the better our country will be.
    I think Obamacare is working just as planned. I wonder if the American people are going to react just as planned.
  6. 03 Nov '13 20:08
    Originally posted by vivify
    So even you agree Obamacare's working. Cool.

    So the GOP cost Americans 27 billion dollars shutting down the government for nothing. The sooner the GOP disapears, the better our country will be.
    The article is wishful thinking , it gives no facts or figures, it just says "ohboy it's working fine in California" with absolutely NOTHING to back up the claim.

    Do you believe everything a libtard journalist tells you?
  7. 04 Nov '13 00:23 / 2 edits
    Originally posted by KilgoreTrout15
    The article is wishful thinking , it gives no facts or figures, it just says "ohboy it's working fine in California" with absolutely NOTHING to back up the claim.

    Do you believe everything a libtard journalist tells you?
    Anybody can google ACA rollout California (or Kentucky) and find data for a state that has its own website.

    Example:

    http://thenextgeneration.org/blog/post/aca-blog-the-obamacare-roll-out-in-california

    From there, a link to

    http://coveredcanews.blogspot.com/2013/10/consumer-interest-remains-strong-for_15.html

    for numbers.

    Of course you can just say these numbers are made up.

    And the beat goes on...
  8. 04 Nov '13 00:30
    Originally posted by JS357
    Anybody can google ACA rollout California (or Kentucky) and find data for a state that has its own website.

    Example:

    http://thenextgeneration.org/blog/post/aca-blog-the-obamacare-roll-out-in-california

    From there, a link to

    http://coveredcanews.blogspot.com/2013/10/consumer-interest-remains-strong-for_15.html

    for numbers.

    Of course you can just say these numbers are made up.

    And the beat goes on...
    The numbers are garbage they are telling you "wow how great" but LOOK AT THEM THEY SUCK.
  9. 04 Nov '13 00:39 / 2 edits
    Originally posted by KilgoreTrout15
    The article is wishful thinking , it gives no facts or figures, it just says "ohboy it's working fine in California" with absolutely NOTHING to back up the claim.

    Do you believe everything a libtard journalist tells you?
    The term libtard is politically incorrect. The PC term is progressive.

    Thanks for that.
  10. 04 Nov '13 00:43
    Originally posted by KilgoreTrout15
    The numbers are garbage they are telling you "wow how great" but LOOK AT THEM THEY SUCK.
    I'm not supporting any qualitative opinion on how it's going. I am just saying anybody can google search. Both sides will look at the numbers and see what they want.
  11. 04 Nov '13 00:45
    Originally posted by vivify
    So even you agree Obamacare's working. Cool.

    So the GOP cost Americans 27 billion dollars shutting down the government for nothing. The sooner the GOP disapears, the better our country will be.
    I don't believe shutting down the government cost anything. Should have saved some money. How do you figure?
  12. 04 Nov '13 01:15
    Originally posted by joe beyser
    I don't believe shutting down the government cost anything. Should have saved some money. How do you figure?
    http://swampland.time.com/2013/10/17/heres-what-the-government-shutdown-cost-the-economy/

    but

    "Durbin may have meant to refer to the cost to the U.S. economy as a whole. But estimates for total economic cost only range from $12 billion to $24 billion."



    http://www.factcheck.org/2013/10/democrats-exaggerate-shutdown-costs/
  13. 04 Nov '13 01:36
    Originally posted by JS357
    http://swampland.time.com/2013/10/17/heres-what-the-government-shutdown-cost-the-economy/

    but

    "Durbin may have meant to refer to the cost to the U.S. economy as a whole. But estimates for total economic cost only range from $12 billion to $24 billion."



    http://www.factcheck.org/2013/10/democrats-exaggerate-shutdown-costs/
    I can't think 0f a single valid reason the economy ought to have suffered, by shutting down "non essential" functions. Probably didn't save money either as federal employees all got back pay, for not working. What a country.
  14. 04 Nov '13 01:38
    Holy crap some liberal reporter with an agenda says that Obamacare in California is a great success so it must be true even though he gives no facts at all to validate the claim.
    Let's just take everything he says at face value and accept it as fact.
  15. 04 Nov '13 01:39
    Originally posted by vivify
    So even you agree Obamacare's working. Cool.

    So the GOP cost Americans 27 billion dollars shutting down the government for nothing. The sooner the GOP disapears, the better our country will be.
    "The sooner the GOP disapears, the better our country will be."

    Some here say a great many parties would be an improvement. Do you really think that a monopoly one party system would be an improvement. I invite you to inspect how that has worked in Detroit.