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Obama's Pal Bill Ayers tried to kill me...

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Originally posted by Crowley
One man's military hero is another's baby-killer...

It's all about perspective, eh?
How many babies did you kill? Or were you too fat to get into the MK?

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Originally posted by der schwarze Ritter
How many babies did you kill? Or were you too fat to get into the MK?
Look, if you wanna play the weight card then I will play the racist card.

If you don't want to discuss points I raise, then please refrain from idiotic personal jibes, as they don't hurt me - seeing as they are not true - or take a break from the forums...

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Originally posted by der schwarze Ritter
Washington Post: the McCain campaign distributed a statement from John Murtagh whose house was fire-bombed by members of the Weather Underground in 1970 -- "Barack Obama may have been a child when William Ayers was plotting attacks against U.S. targets -- but I was one of those targets. Barack Obama's friend tried to kill my family."

What does ...[text shortened]... ://www.nydailynews.com/opinions/2008/04/30/2008-04-30_barack_obama_pal_is_an_enemy_too.html
John McCain tried to kill dozens of Spaniards, but wasn't up to the task. He only caused a major blackout when he flew into some high tension wires. The U.S. Navy claimed that he was just showboating and then gave him the Admiral's Son medal for showboating.

The truth is that he doesn't like the Spanish and if elected that will be the first place that we go to war, followed by Michigan. I know it is a state, but they just slapped McCain around a bit and they are gonna get what they got coming to them.

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Originally posted by Crowley
Look, if you wanna play the weight card then I will play the racist card.

If you don't want to discuss points I raise, then please refrain from idiotic personal jibes, as they don't hurt me - seeing as they are not true - or take a break from the forums...
not the race card again 😞

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Originally posted by der schwarze Ritter
How many babies did you kill? Or were you too fat to get into the MK?
Too young.

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Originally posted by der schwarze Ritter
Washington Post: the McCain campaign distributed a statement from John Murtagh whose house was fire-bombed by members of the Weather Underground in 1970 -- "Barack Obama may have been a child when William Ayers was plotting attacks against U.S. targets -- but I was one of those targets. Barack Obama's friend tried to kill my family."

What does ://www.nydailynews.com/opinions/2008/04/30/2008-04-30_barack_obama_pal_is_an_enemy_too.html
There isn't a shred of evidence that the bombing of Judge Murtaugh's house had anything to do with the Weather Underground. All of their bombings occurred at public buildings (once they bombed some police cars) and were acknowledged i.e. bragged about in statements given to the media. It's far more likely that the bombing was conducted by the Panthers (he was presiding at a Panther trial).

The only people the WU killed was a few of themselves in the Greenwich Village explosion on March 6, 1970.

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Originally posted by der schwarze Ritter
Washington Post: the McCain campaign distributed a statement from John Murtagh whose house was fire-bombed by members of the Weather Underground in 1970 -- "Barack Obama may have been a child when William Ayers was plotting attacks against U.S. targets -- but I was one of those targets. Barack Obama's friend tried to kill my family."

What does ...[text shortened]... ://www.nydailynews.com/opinions/2008/04/30/2008-04-30_barack_obama_pal_is_an_enemy_too.html
what does it say about McCain and the keating 5 s&l scandal. guilt by assoctation? is that all you got?


btw: Ayers was recently awarded the Chicago citezen of the year award, and is a tenured prof. He doesn't sound too much like a terrorist to me.

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Originally posted by Crowley
Look, if you wanna play the weight card then I will play the racist card.

If you don't want to discuss points I raise, then please refrain from idiotic personal jibes, as they don't hurt me - seeing as they are not true - or take a break from the forums...
trying to reason with dsr is like trying to fit a bowling ball into a ant hill. It might take a sledghammer and a few hours, but eventually it will happen. Trouble is, most people wouldn't try to fit a bowling ball there, they wouldn't waste their time.

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Originally posted by Crowley
Look, if you wanna play the weight card then I will play the racist card.

If you don't want to discuss points I raise, then please refrain from idiotic personal jibes, as they don't hurt me - seeing as they are not true - or take a break from the forums...
DSR, beware of offending the delicate sensitivities of activist moderators.

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Originally posted by der schwarze Ritter
To compare a military action to a terrorist action shows your logic is off and your moral compass is broken; therefore, we have nothing more to say to each other, you liberal schmuck.
So bombing citizens is ok as long as they're not US citizens and you call it military action.... riiiiiight

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Originally posted by mrstabby
So bombing citizens is ok as long as they're not US citizens and you call it military action.... riiiiiight
You certainly are dense -- here I just explained to jlily that it's wrong to compare a military action to a terrorist action and you go making the same faulty argument again.

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Originally posted by der schwarze Ritter
You certainly are dense -- here I just explained to jlily that it's wrong to compare a military action to a terrorist action and you go making the same faulty argument again.
Do you think the notion of state-sponsored terrorism is contradictory? Suppose we find out that Saudi Arabia had secretly, but officially, coordinated the attacks on 9/11, and that the pilots and planners of those attacks were part of an elite squad of the Saudi Arabian military. Would the attacks still qualify as terrorism, or would they then be military action? If the latter, would the attacks then be morally better, worse, or the same as if they had been terroristic?

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Originally posted by bbarr
Do you think the notion of state-sponsored terrorism is contradictory? Suppose we find out that Saudi Arabia had secretly, but officially, coordinated the attacks on 9/11, and that the pilots and planners of those attacks were part of an elite squad of the Saudi Arabian military. Would the attacks still qualify as terrorism, or would they then be military ac ...[text shortened]... r, would the attacks then be morally better, worse, or the same as if they had been terroristic?
How many licks does it take to get to the center of a Tootsie-Roll Tootsie-Pop?

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Originally posted by der schwarze Ritter
How many licks does it take to get to the center of a Tootsie-Roll Tootsie-Pop?
Three, according to Mr. Owl.

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Originally posted by der schwarze Ritter
You certainly are dense -- here I just explained to jlily that it's wrong to compare a military action to a terrorist action and you go making the same faulty argument again.
OK. The Luftwaffe bombing London, or the Allies bombing Dresden, were somehow morally different than Umkhonto we Sizwe letting off car bombs in Pretoria, or the IRA blowing up the Horse Guards. Please explain. Is it the uniform that makes the difference?