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    03 May '16 10:14
    http://fusion.net/story/279054/possibility-of-trump-presidency-is-pushing-latino-immigrants-to-get-citizenship/

    More illegals are petitioning for citizenship than ever before instead of just sitting back and living off the dole.
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    03 May '16 13:04
    I am curious as to how non-citizens get the dole, and why, once they get citizenship they would stop receiving it.
  3. Standard membersh76
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    03 May '16 13:131 edit
    Originally posted by twhitehead
    I am curious as to how non-citizens get the dole, and why, once they get citizenship they would stop receiving it.
    Many programs do support people in the US illegally and becoming a legal resident or citizen makes it much easier to gain employment. Without lawful status it's very hard to work "on the books."
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    03 May '16 13:31
    Originally posted by twhitehead
    I am curious as to how non-citizens get the dole, and why, once they get citizenship they would stop receiving it.
    http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/obama-budgets-17613-for-every-new-illegal-minor-more-than-social-security-retirees-get/article/2590078


    Illegals are making more from the nanny state than are some retired US citizens.
  5. SubscriberSuzianne
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    04 May '16 07:23
    Originally posted by whodey
    http://fusion.net/story/279054/possibility-of-trump-presidency-is-pushing-latino-immigrants-to-get-citizenship/

    More illegals are petitioning for citizenship than ever before instead of just sitting back and living off the dole.
    People cannot be "illegal".

    Get an imagination and come up with another meme.

    In another thread, I said to try "undocumented workers".

    Clearly, you didn't like that one, so come up with one yourself that actually works. Something better than "illegal".
  6. SubscriberSuzianne
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    04 May '16 07:241 edit
    Originally posted by sh76
    Many programs do support people in the US illegally and becoming a legal resident or citizen makes it much easier to gain employment. Without lawful status it's very hard to work "on the books."
    Really? If this is true, no doubt you can easily name a couple of these programs. Go right ahead.
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    04 May '16 10:26
    Originally posted by whodey
    Illegals are making more from the nanny state than are some retired US citizens.
    Except the article you linked says no such thing. Instead it says that the US spends money on 'unaccompanied children' many of which are legal. Note that the children themselves do not receive all the money mentioned. The US also spends an awful lot of money on prisoners, but prisoners don't get rich as a result. Don't confuse spending money with benefits.
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    04 May '16 12:45
    Originally posted by Suzianne
    Really? If this is true, no doubt you can easily name a couple of these programs. Go right ahead.
    Sure.

    SNAP, Medicaid, CHIP and TANF (varies state by state)

    https://aspe.hhs.gov/basic-report/overview-immigrants-eligibility-snap-tanf-medicaid-and-chip#Key

    And all the rest and in all states via anchor-babies.
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    04 May '16 15:05
    Originally posted by whodey
    http://fusion.net/story/279054/possibility-of-trump-presidency-is-pushing-latino-immigrants-to-get-citizenship/

    More illegals are petitioning for citizenship than ever before instead of just sitting back and living off the dole.
    Life as an illegal in the US is really amazing. That's why so many American citizens are burning their passports in order to live as a fake undocumented alien.
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    06 May '16 23:15
    Originally posted by twhitehead
    Except the article you linked says no such thing. Instead it says that the US spends money on 'unaccompanied children' many of which are legal. Note that the children themselves do not receive all the money mentioned. The US also spends an awful lot of money on prisoners, but prisoners don't get rich as a result. Don't confuse spending money with benefits.
    US inmates cost $30,000 p.a.
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    07 May '16 12:09
    Originally posted by sh76
    Sure.

    SNAP, Medicaid, CHIP and TANF (varies state by state)

    https://aspe.hhs.gov/basic-report/overview-immigrants-eligibility-snap-tanf-medicaid-and-chip#Key

    And all the rest and in all states via anchor-babies.
    Quick...someone thumbs down sh76 post and alert the forum monitors. We can't have "factual" information interfering with life in our utopic fantasy world!
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    07 May '16 12:451 edit
    Originally posted by sh76
    Sure.

    SNAP, Medicaid, CHIP and TANF (varies state by state)

    https://aspe.hhs.gov/basic-report/overview-immigrants-eligibility-snap-tanf-medicaid-and-chip#Key

    And all the rest and in all states via anchor-babies.
    There is nothing in that link that I can see regarding illegal immigrants:

    While many immigrants who are lawfully present in the United States are eligible for public benefits, there are restrictions based on citizenship and immigration status that limit their access to several federal means-tested programs.

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    States can cover immigrants with substitute SNAP, Medicaid, and TANF benefits using their own funding and since 2009, states have the option of covering lawfully present children and pregnant women in Medicaid and/or CHIP.

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    Under CHIPRA, states can receive federal funding to provide Medicaid and/or CHIP to lawfully residing children up to age 21


    You obviously didn't read the link; it says nothing to support your claim.
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