1. SubscriberWajoma
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    21 Oct '09 03:49
    Regarding the title of the thread, one million men, two million men or any number of million men should mind there own business, this is a womens issue.
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    21 Oct '09 03:58
    Originally posted by Seitse
    No, no parallelisms.

    Unfortunately, the U.S. does not and will never look like Europe under social-democratic rule.

    First, U.S. people should learn the real meaning of 'socialism'.

    It is comedic how easily and freely the word is used over there, more with
    a shock/propagandistic twist rather that with a real understanding.
    Rec'd. And dead-on.
  3. Donationrwingett
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    21 Oct '09 12:06
    Originally posted by whodey
    Corporations can be "democratic" as well since shareholders can vote on issues and for CEO's. Of course, these issues and CEO's are hand picked just like ones that run for office.
    That would be like slave owners voting on the rules concerning slavery, where the number of votes you get is determined by the number of slaves you own.

    My idea of democracy involves universal suffrage, with everyone getting an equal vote, not just the corporate elite. One man, one vote. When people can vote for their boss as well as for their president, then we'll have a real democracy.
  4. Subscribershavixmir
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    21 Oct '09 12:15
    Originally posted by whodey
    I am simply describing the move towards socialism. One has to start down the path to get to ones destination. You can't just wave a magic wand to get there.
    Abortion has nothing to do with socialism. It's about woman's rights.
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    21 Oct '09 13:54
    Originally posted by rwingett
    That would be like slave owners voting on the rules concerning slavery, where the number of votes you get is determined by the number of slaves you own.

    My idea of democracy involves universal suffrage, with everyone getting an equal vote, not just the corporate elite. One man, one vote. When people can vote for their boss as well as for their president, then we'll have a real democracy.
    so majority rules huh? Just want to keep the minorites down do you..
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    21 Oct '09 13:55
    Originally posted by shavixmir
    Abortion has nothing to do with socialism. It's about woman's rights.
    Shav talking about woman's rights? LMAO Has to be the biggest hypocracy i've ever seen on rhp!
  7. Donationrwingett
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    21 Oct '09 14:25
    Originally posted by NimzovichLarsen
    so majority rules huh? Just want to keep the minorites down do you..
    As long as the rights of the minority are respected, then, yes, within those confines that's what democracy is. As long as the poor outnumber the rich, then the only way the rich can continue to run the world is by circumventing and marginalizing democratic processes. If the world were truly democratic then policies which promoted greater and greater egalitarianism would prevail in the long run. Corporatism and the continued prevalence of huge disparities in wealth are evidence of a lack of democracy in the key institutions which affect people's lives.
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    21 Oct '09 14:30
    Originally posted by rwingett
    As long as the rights of the minority are respected, then, yes, within those confines that's what democracy is. As long as the poor outnumber the rich, then the only way the rich can continue to run the world is by circumventing and marginalizing democratic processes. If the world were truly democratic then policies which promoted greater and greater egalit ...[text shortened]... ealth are evidence of a lack of democracy in the key institutions which affect people's lives.
    So what is to prevent the rich from "buying" whatever they want by buying the votes of the poor?
  9. Donationrwingett
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    21 Oct '09 14:30
    Originally posted by NimzovichLarsen
    So what is to prevent the rich from "buying" whatever they want by buying the votes of the poor?
    Nothing. That is what they currently do.
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