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@divegeester
As an outsider to the US you clearly have a fuuked up opinion as to what democracy actually is.
Trump CLEARLY wants to totally control ALL branches of our government, proof is the selections of real asssholes like RFK jr to be the head of health here, where that POS pushes BS conspiracy theories and such BESIDES putting a dead baby bear inside Central Park or cutting off the head of a dead whale with a chainsaw and carrying it on his car for a couple hundred miles. Yep, nothing wrong with RFK jr, right?
Or Matt Gaetz as FUUKING ATTORNEY GENERAL?

Do you maybe get the implication of that particularly bad, VERY bad, choice for AG?

Like the pesky fact our branches of government are equal and independent?

But Trump HATES that idea, which he has shown time and time again.

He has said the power of presidency should be INFINITE and putting in Gaetz as AG, a person who clearly gives total fealty to Trump and Trump alone, don't you get it? That means Trump takes over yet another branch of government on his way to taking over ALL of it, ruling EXACTLY the same as Putin, his best buddy and mentor.

HINT: We actual adults here vehemently fight that effort by Trump to be literally a dictator, which is EXACTLY what Trump wants.
Then there is the idea of firing ALL 50,000 fed workers, civil servants and replacing THEM with Trump 100% loyalists.
I guess you figure that should be the right of a president, take control of yet another part of government previously independent and not EVER to be considered under the control of a single person.

So serious question: Do you think it is ok for Trump to take over ALL branches of the government and to be the ONE person calling the shots over all three branches JUST LIKE PUTIN DOES NOW?

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@AverageJoe1
PREDICTS? Are you fuuking INSANE or just plane stupid? Who the FUUK do you think will control DOJ if Matt Gaetz gets in as AG? Gaetz falls over himself bowing down to Trump every day of the week so he WILL do EXACTLY what Trump wants him to do in DOJ,
Hey Matty, Jimmy Kimmel is a pain in the butt with all his negative comments about me, so swing it so you can arrest that assshole and have his sorry ass in jail.

And you think NOTHING wrong with that since you already feel Trump should have LITERALLY infinite power with ZERO checks and balances,
EXACTLY like Trumps best friend and mentor Putin.

Also I assume you have no problem with Trump 'stopping' the Ukraine war by forcing Zelinski to give up 30 or 40 percent of its sovereign territory for 'peace', right?
You are 100% ok with that, in spite of the fact Putin wants to rebuild the old Soviet Empire and the Ukraine war was just the opening shot for that goal.

So he gets a large chunk of Ukraine without any more battles thanks to Trump and he goes to his 'advisors' Ok, lets see what weak ass country we can attack NEXT.

ALL just fine with you.

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@divegeester
Do you seriously think Trump would just announce, Hey, am aiming to be a dictator.
Oh, wait, he already said that.
So the people on the low end of the intelligence spectrum voted him in not having a fuuking CLUE as to Trump's real motives which have been clear for 9 years now.
This time he gets to win his coup without a drop of blood spilled unlike last time when people fuuking DIED on Jan 6 or shortly thereafter and over 140 capitol cops injured also, Yep, just a peaceful political discourse, right?

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@divegeester
You really don't get the idea that Trump has a much more sinister agenda than just being elected president.

OF COURSE he was elected in a fair election.
Do you really think that meant they had any idea of his REAL agenda which is CLEARLY to take over ALL branches of government, on OBVIOUS example is trying to get Matt Gaetz in as AG?
Tell me, like Garland said in a letter to Biden, I will accept this position as AG IF you give it to me IN WRITING I will be totally independent, which is what the founding fathers envisioned because they fought to STOP the US being run by kings.
Do you seriously think DOJ would be independent if Gaetz got in as AG?
When Gaetz has been a card carrying Trumpite TOTAL fealty to Trump and Trump alone?
Trump goes Hey Matty, Jimmy Kimmel PISSES ME OFF, find SOME excuse to arrest that sorry son of a bitch, you think good old Matty would refuse? That is NOT Trump being in charge of DOJ?

What part of THAT do you not understand?


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@divegeester
Why don't YOU give me a definition of what you would call a takeover of all three branches of US government starting with assigning a world class assshole like Gaetz as our ATTORNEY GENERAL. where as someone swearing TOTAL fealty to Trump and Trump alone, FUUK the constitution, and he would be AG, so Trump goes like I said, Jimmy Kimmel PISSES ME OFF, I want you to use your office to find some reason to arrest that assshole.

The steps taken to realize this and the rest of the steps he WILL do to take over completely, as just a theoretical question, what would YOU call it?


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@AverageJoe1
PREDICTS? Are you fuuking INSANE or just plane stupid? Who the FUUK do you think will control DOJ if Matt Gaetz gets in as AG? Gaetz falls over himself bowing down to Trump every day of the week so he WILL do EXACTLY what Trump wants him to do in DOJ,
Hey Matty, Jimmy Kimmel is a pain in the butt with all his negative comments about me, so swing it so you can ...[text shortened]... to his 'advisors' Ok, lets see what weak ass country we can attack NEXT.

ALL just fine with you.
OK……we will bite. You concretely suggest (Kimmel analogy) that he will hurt people who poke at him.

Everyone, enter this into your journals, we will see how his stupid predictions will fare.

Whew.

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@divegeester
Why don't YOU give me a definition of what you would call a takeover of all three branches of US government starting with assigning a world class assshole like Gaetz as our ATTORNEY GENERAL. where as someone swearing TOTAL fealty to Trump and Trump alone, FUUK the constitution, and he would be AG, so Trump goes like I said, Jimmy Kimmel PISSES ME OFF, I want yo ...[text shortened]... he steps he WILL do to take over completely, as just a theoretical question, what would YOU call it?
How can he define the takeover when it will be non existent.? And I will spare you my zeal about Wray and Garland et al……….why, you ask? They are history, little feller….like Jan 6. Look forward …not past,.

You keep inserting foot into mouth, you will be sorry. Oh, did you buy NVIDIA ?

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@divegeester
So the fact that Putin controls all parts of Russian government, a dude arrested and convicted where the outcome is what Putin wants, is a fuuking DEMOCRACY?


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@AverageJoe1
Non existent. Sure, it could NEVER happen here like it did in Germany in the 1930's, right? NOBODY could be that stupid to vote for a would be dictator would they?
Would you consider DOJ to be independent from POTUS if Gaetz is AG?
Like Trump says JIMMY KIMMEL PISSES ME OFF, find a way to arrest and jail this son of a bitch.
That would still be DOJ being independent?
Remember, that is what Trump already hinted at but not explicit which he could never do if he wanted the lower IQ bunch to elect him.
I think the higher one's IQ, the more likely it would be that person would see through the BS and see what Trump has planned for us, namely Trump controlling all branches of government.
Takeover of DOJ is one step along that path.
But you are WAY too programmed as a card carrying Trumpite to EVER figure that out.
When you are so profoundly programmed, even a high IQ won't help but statistically the better one can sus out BS when they hear it, the less likely one would be to vote for an obvious dictator seeking individual like Trump clearly is.

Tell me SERIOUS question, if Gaetz gets in as AG and follows through on orders by Trump to persecute civilians for just pissing off Trump,

would you still say DOJ is independent of POTUS?

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@divegeester
You call seeing Putin as a barbarian dictator is RANTING? What planet are you from again? Even in RUSSIA they know Putin is a dictator, why do you call it RANTS when I point that out?
Why do you think it can't happen here in the US?

Just because Trump is elected, do you seriously think the voters had in mind the ok to make Trump a literal dictator?

You can't see the way people vote and the actual hidden, actually, not even hidden agenda of Trump to be the ONE person in charge of the entire US, this is not a dictatorship because Trump was voted in?

If somebody ran as a real presidential candidate running on a dictator platform for real and out in the open, what would you say his chances are in any democracy anywhere in the world to actually win?

Trump desires to be a dictator and that should be obvious to anyone with an IQ over 60 but do you seriously think he would actually run with that goal as his stated platform?