@Earl-of-Trumps saidInfrastructure is what people pay taxes for; it’s not a handout, it’s an entitlement.
What you call "caring" we call a license to enslave.
And that is what it is with liberal people, right...? you get to control people and take their wealth.
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@Earl-of-Trumps saidSo you are ok with Trump and his son in law getting LITERALLY 5+ BILLION, gee, for nothing, no return expected, at least financially since Jarhead has used his several billions given to him by the Saudi's, and usually you expect some financial return but Jarhead has returned ZERO, not a fluking PENNY, but sure has taken his 30 million a year cut which will be even more considering he now has FIVE billion thanks to SA.
Perfect example as to why I say, go Libertarian. The fewer of these damm giveaway programs,
the less corruption you can have. People must think that these Pols set these 'benevolent' giveaway
programs up to help the people. Jeezus people, LEARN.
I'm convinced corruption will exist every place that your government opens up a giveaway project. Bastids.
You want to bitch and moan about corruption but you seem to think if a POTUS steals some silverware and takes it home, that is just as bad as Jarhead getting LITERALLY 5 BILLION for NOTHING, money wise anyway, but those JUICY contracts, I bet the Saudi's get REAL special treatment now......
@sonhouse saidyou know I do not at all favor that
So you are ok with Trump and his son in law getting LITERALLY 5+ BILLION, gee, for nothing, no return expected, at least financially since Jarhead has used his several billions given to him by the Saudi's, and usually you expect some financial return but Jarhead has returned ZERO, not a fluking PENNY, but sure has taken his 30 million a year cut which will be even more consi ...[text shortened]... money wise anyway, but those JUICY contracts, I bet the Saudi's get REAL special treatment now......
@Earl-of-Trumps saidIt's one thing to not like what someone does but another that to me is disgusting and reprehensible.
you know I do not at all favor that
@Earl-of-Trumps saidWell, all right then, think of it as a contract. There’s an implied contract when you walk into a supermarket and come to the cash register. The implied contract is that you get goods in exchange for a medium of exchange. Well, the same thing occurs between a citizen and the state. The citizen pays taxes, and there’s an implied contract. The state will provide certain services, including infrastructure.
I hate that word, 'entitlement'.
As far as I'm concerned, there is little that I think you are entitled to, such as safe streets.
Police, fire, and schools, of course.
@Earl-of-Trumps saidBut what about Life, Liberty and the Pursuit of Happiness?
I hate that word, 'entitlement'.
As far as I'm concerned, there is little that I think you are entitled to, such as safe streets.
Police, fire, and schools, of course.
Not to mention other inalienable rights that humans get just for being human.
Or is that too close to your scary word "entitlements"?
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@Suzianne
I will agree that we are "entitled" to lots of things, like the right to free assembly, the right to privacy, and more.
For one, Suzi, that does not take tax dollars to have been given.
Now, are we "entitled" to our paycheck?, Suzianne?? Once you say payroll tax is ok - even when *forced* ,
it's all over. the pigs go on a wilding. You see NYC what is going on there? City income tax.
And I'm sure the citizens enjoy that extra tax, too. sigh
@Earl-of-Trumps saidYour argument makes no sense.
@Suzianne
I will agree that we are "entitled" to lots of things, like the right to free assembly, the right to privacy, and more.
For one, Suzi, that does not take tax dollars to have been given.
Now, are we "entitled" to our paycheck?, Suzianne?? Once you say payroll tax is ok - even when *forced* ,
it's all over. the pigs go on a wilding. You see NYC what is going on there? City income tax.
And I'm sure the citizens enjoy that extra tax, too. sigh
You say 'no freebies', yeah?
And yet you don't want the city to pay for them.
Eliminating tax on citizens sounds like the biggest 'freebie' of all time.
@Suzianne said - Eliminating tax on citizens sounds like the biggest 'freebie' of all time.
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Not a fan of freedom, huh?
@Earl-of-Trumps saidYou have a rather parochial idea of freedom.
@Suzianne said - Eliminating tax on citizens sounds like the biggest 'freebie' of all time.
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Not a fan of freedom, huh?
@Earl-of-Trumps saidSome countries DO give money to unemployed, not unemployment insurance, but a minimum wage to start with, then a job gets you even more.
@Suzianne
I will agree that we are "entitled" to lots of things, like the right to free assembly, the right to privacy, and more.
For one, Suzi, that does not take tax dollars to have been given.
Now, are we "entitled" to our paycheck?, Suzianne?? Once you say payroll tax is ok - even when *forced* ,
it's all over. the pigs go on a wilding. You see NYC what is going on there? City income tax.
And I'm sure the citizens enjoy that extra tax, too. sigh