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Let us all vote on whether this is true or not? A fair question.
https://news.yahoo.com/biden-nations-children-children-233243250.html

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@averagejoe1 said
Let us all vote on whether this is true or not? A fair question.
https://news.yahoo.com/biden-nations-children-children-233243250.html
a child belongs to the parents alone...end of story. so damned tired of these perverts

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@mott-the-hoople said
a child belongs to the parents alone...end of story. so damned tired of these perverts
What are the dems, the liberals, up to, Mott?

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@averagejoe1 said
What are the dems, the liberals, up to, Mott?
Karine J P, the gay bleep said the same thing the other day: "These kids are ours, they belong to all of us" Should be sacked on the spot, plus shallow blue doesn't like people saying the word "kids", double sacking.

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@wajoma said
Karine J P, the gay bleep said the same thing the other day: "These kids are ours, they belong to all of us" Should be sacked on the spot, plus shallow blue doesn't like people saying the word "kids", double sacking.
Note that the libs do not answer my straightforward question.......Are our nation's children all our children".
Why don't the liberals respond to the question. Are all our nation's children all our children?

Weenies all. Just weenies. Losing cred big time. Man up. YOu too Suzianne. Man up.

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Conservatives make me laugh in a cynical, sad way.

They do everything in their power to make it hard for the common people to raise children, keep immigrants out, constantly mouthing off about how people who can't afford it shouldn't have kids, doing everything in their power to concentrate wealth and income into the hands of the wealthy at the expense of the masses, and then Elon Musk and Tucker Carlson whine about how people aren't having children and how the human species is going to go extinct.

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https://www.businessinsider.com/elon-musk-tucker-carlson-sex-procreation-collapse-civilisation-abortion-pill-2023-4

Musk claimed that the human urge to procreate had been "subverted," leading to population decline.

"Well, it's just, in the past we could rely upon, you know, simple limbic system rewards in order to procreate. But once you have birth control and abortions and whatnot, now you can still satisfy limbic instinct, but not procreate," Musk replied.


Funny, birth control didn't stop Elon from having 9 kids from 3 different women at least one of whom he wasn't even married to. What's different between Elon and the rest of us? We all have access to birth control...

When I was a kid, we said people like Elon Musk bred like Mexicans (or Irish) - without restraint or planning. It was something shameful. Civilized American people planned their families and made sure they could financially support them. You were supposed to marry the mother of your children and stay with her for the rest of your life.

But I guess if you're rich you can breed like that and it's simply natural healthy obedience to your limbic system. His single Mom girlfriend doesn't get harassed by conservatives for having kids without being married either. She and Musk are no different than our 14 year old Mexican neighbor who got pregnant before she was married and went on to have 9 kids with 3 different men. The difference is that Grimes is white and her baby daddy is rich which somehow makes it socially acceptable.

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@athousandyoung said
[quote]https://www.businessinsider.com/elon-musk-tucker-carlson-sex-procreation-collapse-civilisation-abortion-pill-2023-4

Musk claimed that the human urge to procreate had been "subverted," leading to population decline.

"Well, it's just, in the past we could rely upon, you know, simple limbic system rewards in order to procreate. But once you have birth contro ...[text shortened]... rence is that Grimes is white and her baby daddy is rich which somehow makes it socially acceptable.
Can't feed em? Don't breed em.

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@wajoma said
Can't feed em? Don't breed em.
https://www.visualcapitalist.com/demographic-timebomb-rapidly-aging-population/

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@athousandyoung said
Conservatives make me laugh in a cynical, sad way.

They do everything in their power to make it hard for the common people to raise children, keep immigrants out, constantly mouthing off about how people who can't afford it shouldn't have kids, doing everything in their power to concentrate wealth and income into the hands of the wealthy at the expense of the masses ...[text shortened]... lson whine about how people aren't having children and how the human species is going to go extinct.
This is a great post, needs its own thread.
We need to let 1M immigrants in each year. Always have. Do you think we need MORE?? Why?
What have conservatives got to do with how you raise your children? Don't get you there.
Yes, I often say don't have children if you can't afford them. Do you think someone who cannot afford children should have them anyway??????? These questions are so simple, I don't know why you get so angry and not respond to the questions. maybe you have more children than you can afford? Is that MY fault? Jesus.

Now, we get to that pesky concept of the successful. Yes, we, know, you think the successful should support those who are not. Yet, you never make a case for it.
Please respond to the above answers that I have posed, together with my ensuing questions, and then start a thread on what to do about the job creators and investors. You do not seem happy with them, and have even suggested that their wealth was acquired at the expense of those to whom they have provided jobs, and opportunities.
Here is a solution. Tell guys who are about to get rich to shut down their factories!!!! They will not get rich, and be in the same boat as the guys who were working there. They can then join the blue collars and all go find a job.....somewhere.
Ha! I just realized who/what I am responding to. Brrrrrrrrr

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@athousandyoung said
[quote]https://www.businessinsider.com/elon-musk-tucker-carlson-sex-procreation-collapse-civilisation-abortion-pill-2023-4

Musk claimed that the human urge to procreate had been "subverted," leading to population decline.

"Well, it's just, in the past we could rely upon, you know, simple limbic system rewards in order to procreate. But once you have birth contro ...[text shortened]... rence is that Grimes is white and her baby daddy is rich which somehow makes it socially acceptable.
Jesus.
#1: Musk can afford his children. And maybe he DID use birth control, to avoid too many children. Smart guy. Next question.....

#2: "3 women"? You suggest divorce should not happen? Just asking for a friend.

#3: Oh, and he is 'way different than the person you refer to in last paragraph. Don't get you there. And, He is way different than horemonger Hunter too, but who's talking about him. And that is the child we KNOW about !!!! And you seem here to be saying that it is not socially acceptable for the Grimes/rich daddy arrangement, but yet you have been OK with Hunter??? New baby, rich daddy...you follow, you must follow...


Oh God, I am responding to Thousand again. I should practice Post-control!

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@athousandyoung said
[quote]https://www.businessinsider.com/elon-musk-tucker-carlson-sex-procreation-collapse-civilisation-abortion-pill-2023-4

Musk claimed that the human urge to procreate had been "subverted," leading to population decline.

"Well, it's just, in the past we could rely upon, you know, simple limbic system rewards in order to procreate. But once you have birth contro ...[text shortened]... rence is that Grimes is white and her baby daddy is rich which somehow makes it socially acceptable.
There is a significant difference between people who have kids that they are able to properly support without state assistance, and people who have kids they cannot support.

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https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2021/08/jd-vance-childless-left-culture-wars/619705/

Ohio Senate candidate J. D. Vance, who held that the “childless left,” exemplified, in his view, by politicians like Pete Buttigieg, Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez, Cory Booker, and Kamala Harris, is turning the country into a rump state of imperious cat ladies. “Let’s give votes to all children in this country,” Vance argued, by way of remedy, “but let’s give control over those votes to the parents of the children … We should worry that in America, family formation, our birth rates, a ton of indicators of family health have collapsed.”


https://www.foxnews.com/us/us-birthrate-figures-decline-to-record-low-rates-report

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@rajk999 said
There is a significant difference between people who have kids that they are able to properly support without state assistance, and people who have kids they cannot support.
Yes. There aren't enough of the former to maintain the population. That's the biggest difference.

*Of course saying the ultra wealthy are "without State assistance" is doublethink considering it is not possible to be that wealthy without government support from police etc

And of course how much money you have should be irrelevant to the people who blame single mothers for society's ills and insist people get married before they have children.

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